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re: Students shoot up a mosque in San Diego.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:15 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:15 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:
A trans nazi? That would be interesting
A crazy crazy? Not really.
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:14 am to Havoc
Wearing makeup and lipstick…. Any others still think they are not transformers?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:00 am to AgCoug
quote:
What real narrative is being formed here? The OP, until he edited his post, said unequivocally that it was a trans shooter. There is no evidence of that, right? It may ultimately turn out to be the case, but until then, it is strictly misinformation. There is no narrative other than the one being created by falsehoods or by people making claims without sufficient information. That's textbook absurdity.
I found a website called "Factually" that I don't think I've ever seen before.
It says that the shooter left a manifesto that was both anti-Muslim and anti-LGBTQ+. It also says that "self hate" cannot be ruled out, meaning that they might actually have been trans or gay and hate themselves. But there is no direct evidence that suggests that they were trans or gay.
So, still no final verdict, I guess.
Link to analysis on Factually
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:00 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
This picture doesn't prove that he was Trans. A lot of mma/grapplers will braid their hair like this for competition.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:30 am to TulsaSooner78
From the manifesto I have seen, they claimed to be "eco fascists" who hate both the left and the right, specifically calling out MAGA/Trump.
A good way to think about it is this:
Think of politics as a clock face.
- True moderates are at 12 o'clock
- Republicans are at 3 o'clock
- Democrat "mainstream" is at 9 o'clock
- Socialist progressives are 7-8 o'clock
- Hard core MAGA at 4 o'clock
- Fascists and communists are just barely either side of 6 o'clock
Point is, you can come to a totalitarian government belief system from either side of the spectrum if you take it far enough. If you really dig into the philosophical backgrounds of communism and fascism, their end games are more alike than not. The WWII rivalry between them was driven more by racism and the false religions of the two than it was by socio-economic policy.
A good way to think about it is this:
Think of politics as a clock face.
- True moderates are at 12 o'clock
- Republicans are at 3 o'clock
- Democrat "mainstream" is at 9 o'clock
- Socialist progressives are 7-8 o'clock
- Hard core MAGA at 4 o'clock
- Fascists and communists are just barely either side of 6 o'clock
Point is, you can come to a totalitarian government belief system from either side of the spectrum if you take it far enough. If you really dig into the philosophical backgrounds of communism and fascism, their end games are more alike than not. The WWII rivalry between them was driven more by racism and the false religions of the two than it was by socio-economic policy.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:39 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Supposedly the manifesto has been leaked/released - saw it last night.
I don't know if it's real/verified but this is supposedly it - only a link so you have to click to see any of it.
X - @amyforsandiego
They (don't know if Caleb or Cain) self-describe as a "Christian Ecofascist Accelerationist" and they go pretty hard against trans people.
Not a funny situation but it is somewhat funny and telling that parts of it have [UNFINISHED] in their manifesto. I think that says a lot about how stable and intelligent these two were.
Edit: I've also seen two TikTok(?) videos of one of them in a mask dancing like an idiot. I think a lot of this generation is totally screwed in the head.
X- Sarah Fields - summation of manifesto and a video of dancing
I don't know if it's real/verified but this is supposedly it - only a link so you have to click to see any of it.
X - @amyforsandiego
They (don't know if Caleb or Cain) self-describe as a "Christian Ecofascist Accelerationist" and they go pretty hard against trans people.
Not a funny situation but it is somewhat funny and telling that parts of it have [UNFINISHED] in their manifesto. I think that says a lot about how stable and intelligent these two were.
Edit: I've also seen two TikTok(?) videos of one of them in a mask dancing like an idiot. I think a lot of this generation is totally screwed in the head.
X- Sarah Fields - summation of manifesto and a video of dancing
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:51 am to BrodyDad
Don’t offend the Mother of God
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:01 am to MrWalkingMan
Everytime there's a mass shooter, sites like Reddit start looking for every pro MAGA, fascist white person evidence it can find.
Sites like here immediately declare Mooselm, Tranny, etc.
The truth more and more seems to be neither far right/left but Always Online Internet culture.
We're seeing weird mixes of trans who hate immigrants, Neo-Nazi environmentalists, extreme right-wing teen dude who also are gay.
It's super weird and I think it's less political spectrum and more incel, nerd and outcast culture that's indoctrinating these dorks.
Sites like here immediately declare Mooselm, Tranny, etc.
The truth more and more seems to be neither far right/left but Always Online Internet culture.
We're seeing weird mixes of trans who hate immigrants, Neo-Nazi environmentalists, extreme right-wing teen dude who also are gay.
It's super weird and I think it's less political spectrum and more incel, nerd and outcast culture that's indoctrinating these dorks.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:28 pm to AgCoug
quote:I kind of agree with you, that the evidence is not strong, but it is a reasonable inference considering statements made by classmates, what appears to be lipstick in the death photo and the hair length. The kid seems to be trying for an effeminate look.
There is no evidence of that, right? It may ultimately turn out to be the case, but until then, it is strictly misinformation.
But I would not make a statement that the status was certain until it actually was certain.
I would stay with the known fact that there was a violent crime committed, a note left and images left.
Wait for reliable facts.
I also suggest that people go back and embarrass the irresponsible press when they put out false information as fact to further their agenda.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:41 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
First time seeing that.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:22 pm to ghost2most
quote:
Everytime there's a mass shooter, sites like Reddit start looking for every pro MAGA, fascist white person evidence it can find.
What's ironic about this one is that one of the guys they killed, the clearly not white security guard, was also a Muslim fascist who had posted "Hitler was right" memes to his social media. For those who don't know, portions of the Muslim world found a lot of common ground with Hitler and the Nazis. Iraq's Ba'ath party (Saddam Hussein) was modeled after the Nazi party.
Now that you mention the "extreme right wing dude who is also gay", I have a distant family member who exactly fits that description. Strange times.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:31 pm to ghost2most
Curious in the last 2 years, how many of the mass shootings that weren't in Chicago(because they have a black on black mass shooting almost nightly) have involved trans identified people doing the shooting?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:35 pm to TheRealTigerHorn
quote:
Think of politics as a clock face.
- True moderates are at 12 o'clock
- Republicans are at 3 o'clock
- Democrat "mainstream" is at 9 o'clock
- Socialist progressives are 7-8 o'clock
- Hard core MAGA at 4 o'clock
- Fascists and communists are just barely either side of 6 o'clock
Point is, you can come to a totalitarian government belief system from either side of the spectrum if you take it far enough
quote:
If you really dig into the philosophical backgrounds of communism and fascism, their end games are more alike than not. The WWII rivalry between them was driven more by racism and the false religions of the two than it was by socio-economic policy.
I mean, they are very similar philosophies for a reason that is clearly going past you, but their differences are not rooted in racism or the religions of the two. Though, seeing this is your interpretation, it makes your other analogy make a lot more sense in its absurdity.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:51 pm to TheRealTigerHorn
Think of politics as a clock face.
- True moderates are at 12 o'clock
- Republicans are at 2 o'clock
- Democrat "mainstream" is at 9 o'clock
- Socialist progressives are 8 o'clock
- Hard core MAGA at 4 o'clock
- Libertarian’s are at 5 o’clock
- Fascists and communists are at 7 o'clock
- Anarchists are at 6 o’clock
FIFY
- True moderates are at 12 o'clock
- Republicans are at 2 o'clock
- Democrat "mainstream" is at 9 o'clock
- Socialist progressives are 8 o'clock
- Hard core MAGA at 4 o'clock
- Libertarian’s are at 5 o’clock
- Fascists and communists are at 7 o'clock
- Anarchists are at 6 o’clock
FIFY
Posted on 5/20/26 at 4:53 pm to jimmy the leg
Not really much better. Frankly a clock face doesn't work to begin with but ultimately much of that doesn't make sense in light of where other things are on there.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 5:44 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:
So.. was it a transformer or not
Definitely
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:57 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
Frankly a clock face doesn't work to begin
It’s circular, and therefore familiar.
What is your issue with it?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:05 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:
So.. was it a transformer or not
not seeing anything in the news about it today, so…
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:06 pm to Klark Kent
quote:huh? people were definitely saying this. even CNN fact-checked in in article linked below
your points stands, but that’s not exactly how that went down. (not saying you’re intentionally mixing it up)
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:16 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
to my understanding:
someone on Steven Crowder’s investigative crew got in contact with someone on scene with the FBI who leaked the initial inscriptions on the shell casings. Right Wing media ran with it immediately (before we knew much about Tyler Robinson). The Left scrambled to try to deflect away from it being another violent nutty Leftist by playing the furry / groyper angle.
Maybe I’m wrong. Not stating this as a fact of record. That is just my understanding of how it went down.
someone on Steven Crowder’s investigative crew got in contact with someone on scene with the FBI who leaked the initial inscriptions on the shell casings. Right Wing media ran with it immediately (before we knew much about Tyler Robinson). The Left scrambled to try to deflect away from it being another violent nutty Leftist by playing the furry / groyper angle.
Maybe I’m wrong. Not stating this as a fact of record. That is just my understanding of how it went down.
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