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re: Strike: UAW workers walk out on General Motors

Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:04 am to
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:04 am to
Toyota, Honda , Mercedes n bmw
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103860 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:05 am to
Walmart employees are non-union, get profit sharing, and can generally be replaced by anyone off the street if the chain wants to look hard enough.


They could attempt to strike but it won’t go the way they want it to.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:11 am to
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UAW has been weakened over the years, thankfully. However, I would like to get down to the real deal of why its "tough" on these workers. I don't really see GM wallowing in cash, meanwhile every UAW worker is driving 1/2 ton pickups and pulling boats.


UAW workers are baws with bargaining power. If they get a bonus, they are buying a $50,000 domestic pickup truck and a fishing boat. Maybe a yeti cooler and a family trip to Branson or Orlando.

General Motors is much leaner than in the past. They making a lot of profit now. That’s probably why the strike is happening.

I don’t see Wal-Mart workers being able to successfully organize a strike.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 7:13 am
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15709 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:16 am to
Let both fail, as should have happened but Jugs bailed them out with our money.

If capitalism is going to be the standard then let the chips fall
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:23 am to
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A person briefed on the bargaining told the Associated Press that GM has offered the UAW new products for two assembly plants that it had planned to close.

GM says it presented what it believes was a "strong offer" Opens a New Window. including improved wages and benefits and investments in eight facilities in four states.


That’s a good offer. frick the UAW they’re the type of scum that caused the dramatic industrial decline of small towns in the rust belt and destroyed Detroit

Unions are largely the reason companies go overseas
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61722 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:41 am to
Most Walmart workers make more than $10/hour.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139257 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:11 am to
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Toyota, Honda , Mercedes n bmw



Yep. Proof that unions aren't necessary in the auto manufacturing business.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21654 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:15 am to
Need more robots
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:21 am to
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frick the UAW they’re the type of scum that caused the dramatic industrial decline of small towns in the rust belt and destroyed Detroit


Yes, it was the UAW that decided to start sending jobs overseas, churn out shitty cars with horrible reliability and awful MPG, not fund pension plans adequately enough, etc.

Is the UAW completely innocent? Hell no, but don't put decisions made by GM management at the feet of the UAW.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25640 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:22 am to
And i’ll Keep buying Honda and Toyota
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:22 am to
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Proof that unions aren't necessary in the auto manufacturing business.



They probably are not really needed at the main plants. Where they are needed are the smaller parts plants that pop up in the vicinity of the Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai, etc. plants. Those places have pretty shoddy safety records and pretty low pay.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17711 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:27 am to
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Send in the Mexicans.



It's a joke but if you truly wanted to bring manufacturing back into the USA, open the border and let the low wage applicant pool grow again.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 8:30 am
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
14359 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:31 am to
If you want to see the differences between a union and non-union plant, go compare the GM plants in Michigan and Kentucky to the Honda plants in Ohio.

The folks at the GM plants come in at 9, leave at 4, and take breaks every 30 minutes.

The folks at the Honda plants bust their asses from 8 to 7.

The difference in product quality is noticeable.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:32 am to
The end is near for unions.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:34 am to
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And i’ll Keep buying Honda and Toyota


The union has been having issues getting into the Toyota plants in Canada. I don't know if Toyota is that good of an employer or workers are just that scared that if they unionize Toyota would just move to Mexico.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46828 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:35 am to
I want more pay!

If you don’t give it to me, I’m not gonna work.
Posted by Quintona
Member since Mar 2019
739 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:53 am to
union "workers" going on strike = spoiled children throwing temper tantrums
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139257 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:56 am to
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I don't know if Toyota is that good of an employer


There was some union talk at the Toyota plant in Georgetown a couple of years ago, but it went away pretty quickly. Toyota does work people hard, but they are well taken care of with regards to pay and benefits.
I think if a union was somehow forced on them, they would close up those facilities. They are not letting unions degrade their reputation.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25387 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:01 am to
Elon Musk and Tesla are blowing loads over this news. Time for the driverless revolution. Old tech/labor, get the frick out of the way.
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
6038 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:12 am to
The right to organize and strike is as American as apple fricking pie. The right of companies to fire them and hire someone else is just as American.
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