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re: Strike: UAW workers walk out on General Motors
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:12 am to goofball
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:12 am to goofball
General Motors management has taken a page of POTUS’s book and posted the high level details of the offer the UAW rejected.
UAW’s Labor pimps are fighting for their own survival. Not for their workers.
In other news:
UAW’s Labor pimps are fighting for their own survival. Not for their workers.
In other news:
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UAW president is unnamed co-conspirator in corruption probe: Report
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The man representing the United Auto Workers union has been implicated in a growing scandal involving the Detroit-based union and its finances - coming as another blow to the union’s reputation.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 6:19 am
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:55 am to goofball
Sounds like GM is offering more than fair negotiation terms. I hope somewhere in that language that if it's approved, the employees take pride in their work and actually build the vehicles properly.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:02 am to goofball
No where does it say when they will offer these perks.
Keep standing up for your rights, uaw
Upvote if you agree.
Keep standing up for your rights, uaw
Upvote if you agree.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 7:02 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:08 am to kywildcatfanone
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Sounds like GM is offering more than fair negotiation terms
I'm sure their PR statement isn't biased either.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:15 am to wfallstiger
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Let both fail, as should have happened but Jugs bailed them out with our money.
If capitalism is going to be the standard then let the chips fall
Fwiw, I have no doubt Trump would have bailed them out too.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:18 am to pioneerbasketball
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Upvote if you agree.
Lol.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:27 am to slackster
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Fwiw, I have no doubt Trump would have bailed them out too.
He would have loaned cash to Ford and GM when the credit markets froze. I don’t think he would have gifted the UAW millions in taxpayer dollars - never to be repaid.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:36 am to goofball
UAW is rejecting a very good, fair deal.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:36 am to fightin tigers
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I'm sure their PR statement isn't biased either.
Well of course it is, but it's out there now, so they have made it public, which can/does carry weight if they somehow try to pull back on them. Shouldn't be a hard concept to understand.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:38 am to goofball
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He would have loaned cash to Ford and GM when the credit markets froze. I don’t think he would have gifted the UAW millions in taxpayer dollars - never to be repaid.
Counter-argument: It is being repaid in the billions in preserved tax revenue by way of thousands of saved jobs.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:19 am to Possumslayer
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Not true
Which part?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:29 am to goofball
Truck prices fixin to go up again.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:21 am to GetCocky11
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Counter-argument: It is being repaid in the billions in preserved tax revenue by way of thousands of saved jobs.
Using tax revenue to preserve a failing private enterprise is not preserving the tax revenue or the failing enterprise. All it did was mitigate the discipline of failure and delay the inevitable at taxpayer's expense. Let it fail.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:38 am to DevilDagNS
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Using tax revenue to preserve a failing private enterprise is not preserving the tax revenue or the failing enterprise. All it did was mitigate the discipline of failure and delay the inevitable at taxpayer's expense. Let it fail.
that philosophy nearly plunged the US economy into a depression in 2007-2008
Like it or not, the gov't has a viable role in softening the impact of a downturn in a capitalist economy.
The Great Depression and the 20 year cycles of bankruns in the 1800's taught us those lessons
The key is maintaining the "sweetspot" of gov't intervention without delving into overregulation
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 11:39 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:09 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Using tax revenue to preserve a failing private enterprise is not preserving the tax revenue or the failing enterprise. All it did was mitigate the discipline of failure and delay the inevitable at taxpayer's expense. Let it fail.
that philosophy nearly plunged the US economy into a depression in 2007-2008
No.
What nearly plunged the US economy into a depression was an investment bubble built on a housing bubble that was built on unicorn farts and pixie dust.
To put it simply, lenders were allowing T-bob to buy a $300k house on his $40k/yr salary and then bundling that mortgage in with a bunch of similar ones and sold that as securities in an equation bereft of actual math.
If you're talking about the government bailout, your philosophy is still incorrect. That money ( $4.6T) would have been far more effective had it just gone straight to the home owners to pay off their mortgages instead of the lenders to do with as they wished.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:31 pm to subMOA
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His comment- “Stay in school boys and girls, or you can come get a $75,000 a year union job like me”
And those people that dirtbag was making reference to are building AI software and robotics to make his worthless job obsolete.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 4:33 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Living raise and working conditions.
Like a unicorn. Sounds fun to say, but no one can point their finger at it.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 5:43 pm to Geauxboy
Board clearly doesn’t remember 2007.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 5:49 pm to GeeOH
Can't speak for GM, but I work for Nissan and I can assure you that robots don't do all the work. They do weld the bodies together and paint them. But the interior and chassis are assembled by people (for now). Lol.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:27 pm to Alty66
Yeah, there is a lot of stuff still done somewhat by hand. Very basic assembly for the most part. No certified techs needed.
Old videos like this are interesting. Check out the number of jobs now done by robots.
1936 assembly line video
Old videos like this are interesting. Check out the number of jobs now done by robots.
1936 assembly line video
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