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Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:29 pm to okietiger
I was born in 78 so it wasn't until the early 90s when I was old enough to "live in the decade". I have a half brother and sister who are 10 and 11 yrs older than I so I was exposed to a lot of the 80s, especially when it came to music, but I think the 90s were pretty cool as well. When you think about the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, there were social changes that took place and other things that defined each decade, but the world started to completely change in the 2000s.
9/11 changed how we lived in many aspects, technology became more advanced at a quicker rate than we ever experienced. As for as music, in the past, rock was rock, rap was rap, there were artist that inspired other artist, etc, but the music business became and still is more of a marketing business than music (not that marketing was not part of music in the past, to a certain degree it had to be, but it just seems like music has become less authentic.
9/11 changed how we lived in many aspects, technology became more advanced at a quicker rate than we ever experienced. As for as music, in the past, rock was rock, rap was rap, there were artist that inspired other artist, etc, but the music business became and still is more of a marketing business than music (not that marketing was not part of music in the past, to a certain degree it had to be, but it just seems like music has become less authentic.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:31 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:35 pm to Darth_Vader
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Unless you lived in the hood in the 80s, you didn't see any of this.
Maybe not for AIDS and crack, but even in a high-income household you were 40% more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in 1984 than you were from 2008-2012.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:39 pm to slackster
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Maybe not for AIDS and crack, but even in a high-income household you were 40% more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in 1984 than you were from 2008-2012.
Do you actually remember the 80s?
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:48 pm to Darth_Vader
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Do you actually remember the 80s?
Does it matter?
You were much more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in the 1980s than you are today, even if you were wealthy.
I'm not arguing for or against the fashion of a decade I couldn't fully experience, but the crime is pretty cut and dry.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:48 pm to okietiger
People tend to remember the good stuff and forget the bad stuff. If you were "growing up" in the 80s, then you probably didn't have to worry about getting a job or much else.
Reagan fired air traffic controllers, taught Grenada and Libya a lesson, suffered a disaster in Lebanon and massively lowered - then incrementally raised - taxes, circumvented the law to sell weapons to Iran in order to fund an insurrection in Central America, and sort of mailed in his last two years in office suffering from the early effects of Alzheimer's disease. This isn't to say he was a bad president, but he gets far more worship than he deserves, and politics really hasn't changed all that much.
Musically, pop and hair bands ruled. The only real bright spot was the rise of college radio and alternative music's influence on the mainstream. Top 40 radio was a wasteland during the '80s and Classic Rock stations helped fill the void until the spring of 1992.
American manufacturing went into the toilet with American auto manufacturers finally letting "Made in Japan" become a sign of quality. But those manufacturers started selling so many cars that they started building plants over here, so it wasn't all a loss.
All in all, it wasn't all that much different than today, except for the internets, cell/smart phones and reality TV.
Reagan fired air traffic controllers, taught Grenada and Libya a lesson, suffered a disaster in Lebanon and massively lowered - then incrementally raised - taxes, circumvented the law to sell weapons to Iran in order to fund an insurrection in Central America, and sort of mailed in his last two years in office suffering from the early effects of Alzheimer's disease. This isn't to say he was a bad president, but he gets far more worship than he deserves, and politics really hasn't changed all that much.
Musically, pop and hair bands ruled. The only real bright spot was the rise of college radio and alternative music's influence on the mainstream. Top 40 radio was a wasteland during the '80s and Classic Rock stations helped fill the void until the spring of 1992.
American manufacturing went into the toilet with American auto manufacturers finally letting "Made in Japan" become a sign of quality. But those manufacturers started selling so many cars that they started building plants over here, so it wasn't all a loss.
All in all, it wasn't all that much different than today, except for the internets, cell/smart phones and reality TV.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:50 pm to slackster
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You were much more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in the 1980s than you are today
We only locked our doors when we went on vacation
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:52 pm to Topwater Trout
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We only locked our doors when we went on vacation
I'm fine with someone arguing how it felt, but we can quantify the actual risk between then and now.
I understand that for many people, perception is reality.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:54 pm to slackster
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I'm fine with someone arguing how it felt, but we can quantify the actual risk between then and now. I understand that for many people, perception is reality
I think kidnapping (by complete strangers) was probably a much bigger problem. As for being murdered or a victim of a violent crime in the suburbs...I don't know if that info exists. The 80's crime stats had to be mostly attributed to the cocaine industry.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:54 pm to dukke v
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Yes. Followed by the 50's.
If you were a straight, white, Protestant male, sure, but for everyone else, the 50s sucked, especially worldwide when there was tons of mass famine and plague.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:55 pm to okietiger
Born in 78 so got to experience the 80s as a young child. I think the 80s were awesome if you were a young kid then.
I do love 80s music....but will always hold a top spot in my heart for 90s rock/alternative music. That was the music of my teenage years.
I do love 80s music....but will always hold a top spot in my heart for 90s rock/alternative music. That was the music of my teenage years.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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As for being murdered or a victim of a violent crime in the suburbs...I don't know if that info exists. The 80's crime stats had to be mostly attributed to the cocaine industry.
Suburban violent crime was 54% higher in 1984 than it was in 2014. Rural violent crime was 20% higher in 1984.
I'm not suggesting 1984 was equivalent to Fallujah, but things are unequivocally safer now than they were then.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:04 pm to lsunurse
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Born in 78 so got to experience the 80s as a young child. I think the 80s were awesome if you were a young kid then.
I can definitely see this, even if most kids feel that way about he decade they grew up.
I can't imagine a man who was 60 in 1980 thinks the 80s were all that great.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:04 pm to slackster
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quote:
Do you actually remember the 80s?
Does it matter?
You were much more likely to be a victim of a violent crime in the 1980s than you are today, even if you were wealthy.
I'm not arguing for or against the fashion of a decade I couldn't fully experience, but the crime is pretty cut and dry.
Actually it kind of does matter. I realize what the stats say. But what those stats don't tell you is the mindset or worldview of people in the 80s comparative to today.
I know the stats say crime was worse then than now. But for the average person then, crime did not seem as bad. And in fact to many who, like me, lived through that time, crime seems (key word there) worse now due the fact that many areas which were prosperous and thriving neighborhoods them are now crime infested shitholes. So while the stats show crime has gone down since the 80s, the perception is that it's gotten worse.
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:07 pm to Topwater Trout
In my hometown we still don't lock our doors in 2016.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:07 pm to Bunk Moreland
You still could enjoy simple things like riding your bike to school, playing outside along with video games. Cell phones and the internet didnt consume our every moment.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:09 pm to dagrippa
quote:You can't do that now?
You still could enjoy simple things like riding your bike to school, playing outside along with video games.
Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:10 pm to okietiger
I liked growing up in the 80's.
Great television.
Ugly baseball uniforms.
The Soviets made shortwave radio listening interesting.
Ronald Reagan.
Hot wheels and G.I. Joe
Great movies.
Cola wars.
Great Saturday morning cartoons.
Nickelodeon was good (the 90's were best).
MTV played music 23 hours of the day.
Commodore 64.
They still played the national anthem when local stations signed off.
It's the little things you remember. lol
Great television.
Ugly baseball uniforms.
The Soviets made shortwave radio listening interesting.
Ronald Reagan.
Hot wheels and G.I. Joe
Great movies.
Cola wars.
Great Saturday morning cartoons.
Nickelodeon was good (the 90's were best).
MTV played music 23 hours of the day.
Commodore 64.
They still played the national anthem when local stations signed off.
It's the little things you remember. lol
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