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Stanford Researchers Link Right-To-Carry Gun Laws With Rise In Violent Crime

Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:26 am
Posted by Street Hawk
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:26 am
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STANFORD (CBS SF) — New research is bound to fuel the debate over the impact of so-called right-to-carry (RTC) laws on crime.

Gun advocates have insisted that crime goes down when law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed weapons in public.

A new study at Stanford that looked at crime data over a period of more than two decades and found violent crime rates actually increased when states adopted RTC laws.

Their research, ‘The Impact of Right to Carry Laws and the NRC Report: The Latest Lessons for the Empirical Evaluation of Law and Policy,’ was published in last month’s Social Science Research Network.

A co-author of the study, Professor John J. Donohue III, said, “The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates” of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder.

The researchers found an 8% increase in aggravated assault. Gun aggravated assaults increased by almost 33%.


#StatsYo
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 5:46 am
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:28 am to
How many of those crimes were committed by the legal gun owner?
Posted by TexasTiger89
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:30 am to
Sounds like bullshite to me.
Posted by 4LSU2
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:32 am to
Yeah because every criminal in urban America Pat's attention to the laws on the books.
Posted by IT_Dawg
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:36 am to
Posted by AthensTiger
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:42 am to
quote:

Stanford Researchers Link Right-To-Carry Gun Laws With Rise In Climate Temperatures


^^ There ya go.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:48 am to
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Stanford Researchers Link Right-To-Carry Gun laws to offended Mizzou students
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:07 am to
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Stanford Researchers Link Right-To-Carry Gun Laws With Triggering
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:17 am to
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The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggest

For those not in academia read: "We used our judgment/bias to choose data that for our agenda. Then, we used that data to confirm our bias by suggestion not fact."
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:01 am to
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Gun advocates have insisted that crime goes down when law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed weapons in public.
Only the retarded ones do. 99% of people just want to be left alone and concealed carry without anyone knowing
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The researchers found an 8% increase in aggravated assault. Gun aggravated assaults increased by almost 33%.
I believe this 0%
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:07 am to







Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:23 am to
Sounds like these guys have an agenda. So this will be a top story on all 3 networks' national broadcasts.
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:31 am to
they can create their own laws up there and suffer from the results. Keep that shite out of here.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:40 am to
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Well, this video disproves the "study".

I really think these people doing the study manipulated data to make it match their agenda.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:58 am to
quote:

How many of those crimes were committed by the legal gun owner?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:39 am to
quote:

How many of those crimes were committed by the legal gun owner?



No kidding, we could examine whether the law directly impacted rates of violent crime by assessing whether those lawfully carrying committed crimes.

OR

We could try hard to find some correlation that'll help our narrative.

fricking morons.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:48 am to
That is the sort of idiocy I would expect to come out of Cal-Berkeley, not Stanford.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:51 am to
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the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates” of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder.



What is the cause-effect hypothesis here?
How could right to carry laws lead to higher rates of those crimes? How could that be possible?

Are we to believe that people who commit rapes are influenced by whether the law allows them to carry a gun legally?

I don't get it.
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:51 am to
The researchers have mixed up cause and effect. Higher crime rates (or at least perceived higher rates) have spurred more law-abiding citizens to push for right to carry laws.
Posted by Redbone
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:57 am to
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they can create their own laws up there and suffer from the results.


Just look at the internals. A 3rd grader could have done better.

To put this in perspective "Stanford University, located between San Francisco and San Jose in the heart of California's Silicon Valley ..."
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