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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:03 pm to
we will know more shortly.

I hate the cops more than anyone, but I think it's setting up their way here.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:04 pm to
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Everyone's testimony is contradicting everyone at this point.
IMO, the best eyewitness statements occur right after the event. Everything said now is convoluted to fit with the bigger agenda.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88306 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:04 pm to
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At about the 6 minute mark of that video, you can hear another eye-witness story. He talks about all the running but none of the hands up stuff. He literally said "he kept coming towards the police."
7:20 is where I heard it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85741 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:04 pm to
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if we had a properly updated OP


Admins can update the OP
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129658 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:04 pm to
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He probably could have gotten away if he had his pants pulled up.

And no sandals. Sandals are a mother fricker to escape 5-0 in.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:05 pm to
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He probably could have gotten away if he had his pants pulled up.


Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:05 pm to
Yeah but you're not a trained officer. I think they should be trained to show restraint. Not unload the gun.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20737 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:06 pm to
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I hate the cops more than anyone,


Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:06 pm to
Yeah, that the last part but it begins around 6 minutes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129658 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:06 pm to
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we will know more shortly. I hate the cops more than anyone, but I think it's setting up their way here.


Yeah. There's going to have to be some pretty damning physical evidence to make this go anywhere.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88306 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:06 pm to
Yep. That's just where I heard the line about "towards the police"... the conversation begins around 6
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14577 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:07 pm to
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At about the 6 minute mark of that video, you can hear another eye-witness story. He talks about all the running but none of the hands up stuff. He literally said "he kept coming towards the police."

7:20 is where I heard it.


Just listened to that. Pretty much backs up what the friend said on the radio
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20737 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:07 pm to
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I think they should be trained to show restraint.


Trained to double tap.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:07 pm to
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Yeah but you're not a trained officer. I think they should be trained to show restraint. Not unload the gun.



On your second point, when your life is in danger, you shoot to eliminate the threat.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61334 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:08 pm to
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I hate the cops more than anyone, but I think it's setting up their way here.

Same. Like I said in another thread, the media and society always pick up on the wrong cases like this. See Trayvon.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129658 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Same. Like I said in another thread, the media and society always pick up on the wrong cases like this. See Trayvon.


The kid shot in Euharlee, GA would have been a good one for the media. But he a poor white kid. So no story. Or Kelly Thomas in California. But he was crazy white dude. So no.
Posted by WG_Tiger23
La
Member since May 2014
504 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:10 pm to
They didn't pick up a case. They immediately took it and ran with it , turning it into another case of the racist institution picking on the black people.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86136 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Yeah but you're not a trained officer. I think they should be trained to show restraint. Not unload the gun.

FWIW, every single officer in the country is trained the opposite. They are to show restraint up until they need to use deadly force. At the time they feel they need to use deadly force, they are trained to do exactly that. Shoot center mass then head. No limbs, to "wing" them, not into the air to warn them. They are trained to neutralize the threat.

If the threat keeps coming, they are trained to keep shooting. That includes unloading the gun, and reloading, if needed.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:10 pm to
There's not a lot of circumstances when you aren't being shot at that take 6,7,8 bullets to the body that won't eliminate the threat.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:11 pm to
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There's not a lot of circumstances when you aren't being shot at that take 6,7,8 bullets to the body that won't eliminate the threat.



if he kept coming after him, you shoot until he goes down.
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