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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:12 pm to
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FWIW, every single officer in the country is trained the opposite. They are to show restraint up until they need to use deadly force. At the time they feel they need to use deadly force, they are trained to do exactly that. Shoot center mass then head. No limbs, to "wing" them, not into the air to warn them. They are trained to neutralize the threat.

If the threat keeps coming, they are trained to keep shooting. That includes unloading the gun, and reloading, if needed.
If that's the training then he's doing what he was trained to do. I guess I disagree with the training. Especially this day and age.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:12 pm to
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At about the 6 minute mark of that video, you can hear another eye-witness story. He talks about all the running but none of the hands up stuff. He literally said "he kept coming towards the police."


at 6:53
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88306 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:12 pm to
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There's not a lot of circumstances when you aren't being shot at that take 6,7,8 bullets to the body that won't eliminate the threat.
Lots of negatives in here... but I think I got it.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:12 pm to
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There's not a lot of circumstances when you aren't being shot at that take 6,7,8 bullets to the body that won't eliminate the threat.

You sure about that? What's your definition of "a lot"?
Posted by WG_Tiger23
La
Member since May 2014
504 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:13 pm to
You know nothing. I have seen crack heads hopped up on stuff that take six cops to restrain them.

I've seen crackheads walk through several tasers.

If he keeps coming aggressively, then you use the amount of bullets required until that movement ceases. If it takes 100, so be it.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:13 pm to
I wonder if Holder will be on top of this?

LINK
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:13 pm to
I've personally dealt with folks on drugs, including bath salts.. it's like they're superhuman.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:14 pm to
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16 page police report.


interesting, so basically the mob reaction to the QT was that the QT "deserved" to be punished for reporting the robbery by Brown, or was it that the QT had the audacity to be robbed in the first place.

Looks like the mob was well ahead of the media in "figuring out" who was responsible.

Never mind the intelligence factor of robbing a box of el cheapo cigars, at a QT that would obviously have surveillance and then drawing attention to yourself later by blocking traffic.

All easily explained by rampant racism, right idiots?




This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:14 pm to
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at 6:53


Which video are y'all looking at? Been going back pages and can't find what y'all are discussing
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:14 pm to
I don't know what my definition is and no, I'm not sure. I'm just having discussion with you fine peeps.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:14 pm to
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interesting, so basically the mob reaction to the QT was that the QT "deserved" to be punished for reporting the robbery by Brown, or was it that the QT had the audacity to be robbed in the first place.



the QT wasn't the place that was robbed..
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Which video are y'all looking at? Been going back pages and can't find what y'all are discussing



search "Mike Brown EyeWitness Crime Scene Video Ferguson, MO" on youtube
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61334 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:15 pm to
He was like 6'4 280 lbs or something. It's going to take more than one or two rounds from a 9mm to stop all that mass.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:15 pm to
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7:20 is where I heard it.

Yeah the 6 minuet is where he whispers World Starr

TBH, I feel like someone out there has video of be actual shooting and may be too afraid to come forward? Maybe a noisy older person who watches from their window all day

Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:15 pm to
I don't consider bullets to be equal to cops or tasers.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88306 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Which video are y'all looking at?
NSFW
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:16 pm to
Even foxnews is unbearable about this.. that says a lot.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:18 pm to
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search "Mike Brown EyeWitness Crime Scene Video Ferguson, MO" on youtube


At 8:40 the guy most def says "And he just kept coming towards him"
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:18 pm to
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Never mind the intelligence factor of robbing a box of el cheapo cigars, at a QT that would obviously have surveillance and then drawing attention to yourself later by blocking traffic.

Except the robbery wasn't at the QT.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88306 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:19 pm to
I noticed that too. You can't tell at which point the first shot was fired from what he says. But it definitely seems like MB was moving toward DW for the last few shots.
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