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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:57 pm to
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But Brown's character is irrelevant. Brown's potential involvement in a crime doesn't answer the questions that citizens of Ferguson have taken to the streets for the past six days to see answered
bulllllllshit
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If Brown did rough up a convenience store clerk and steal a box of smokes, does it mean we should care less about the circumstances of his death?

If you believe the answer to this question is no, then it doesn't matter if Michael Brown stole a box of cigars.
Totally disagree.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88306 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:58 pm to
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Eyewitness accounts contradicts her story
It's a small distinction, but an important one. We don't have any testimony under oath from either side.
Posted by Sal Minio
17th Street Canal
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:58 pm to
Somebody please post the link to Johnathan Gentry from page 93 of this thread.
THIS IS TELLING IT REAL.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:59 pm to
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eyewitness testimony that hasn't been proven by physical evidence. her story is just as valid/invalid as theirs.

Not what you said
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her story is corroborated by what available official info we have. nothing else conflicts with her story.

but I get your point
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Somebody please post the link to Johnathan Gentry from page 93 of this thread.



LINK

quote:

THIS IS TELLING IT REAL.



can't disagree, but we've moved past this point I believe
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88306 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:59 pm to
I think it will come down to his toxicology report. If it shows that he had something in his system, then they should be able to use his actions just prior to the shooting as an example of his irrational behavior.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:00 pm to
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You can't be serious.

Anyone who comes into a 6000 post thread with 6 hour old information deserves whatever.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:00 pm to
At about the 6 minute mark of that video, you can hear another eye-witness story. He talks about all the running but none of the hands up stuff. He literally said "he kept coming towards the police."


I do think the headshot was wrong.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:00 pm to
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but I get your point



I was saying nothing conflicts, there may be parts that don't have something to either conflict/confirm with, but nothing conflicts.. just like the other witness statements I believe (correct me if wrong), but nothing can be trusted without physical evidence.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:00 pm to
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Anyone who comes into a 6000 post thread with 6 hour old information deserves whatever.



forgot, sarcasm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:01 pm to
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I do think the headshot was wrong.



if someone is coming towards me like that im not going to think about where ill shoot, i'm just going to shoot
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:01 pm to
LINK

This guy apparently tweeted the shooting as it happened.

He said that he was "running" and the officer just shot him

What he fails to mention is the direction. Was he running away, or running at the officer?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85740 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Eyewitness testimony contradicts her story


Everyone's testimony is contradicting everyone at this point. Like I said, its getting so convoluted that we'll never know the truth and the protestors are not going to like the outcome.

There are multiple issues with the eye witnesses that have made statements thus far. And FTR, I wanted to believe them.

1) The buddy is now associated with a robbery just moments before which he conveniently didn't mention and left out of any statements... Kind of hard to believe him. Additionally, his statements have become more and more scripted in every subsequent statement. He is being coached and its pretty clear

2) The girl, who I think is the most credible witness, keeps referring to Mike in a way that sounds like they were friends. Gonna be hard to take her testimony at full face when she's got skin in the game.



This is the reason all officers should be required to wear cameras.
Posted by WG_Tiger23
La
Member since May 2014
504 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:01 pm to
I didn't agree with any of that either. Just linking the article that clearly shows he robbed a store and assaulted the clerk.


Character has everything to do with cases. Trayvons character was relevant too and it was bullshite that Zimmermans character was fine to attack but not Trayvons.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:02 pm to
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if someone is coming towards me like that im not going to think about where ill shoot, i'm just going to shoot


Someone called into a radio show claiming to be friends with the wife of the officer and she said that he didn't stop even when hit with bullets
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129658 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:02 pm to
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her story is corroborated by what available official info we have. nothing else conflicts with her story.


Specifically what is corroborated?
1) the officer didn't know initially
2) he was shot a bunch of times

That's it. Awesome corroboration.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:02 pm to
Ya know.. if we had a properly updated OP, maybe information wouldn't get reposted so much. When you start a thread about something this crazy, you should be prepared to take on the role of updating it consistently.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20737 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:02 pm to
So what is going to happen tonight??
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128492 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:02 pm to
He probably could have gotten away if he had his pants pulled up.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41753 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:03 pm to
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if someone is coming towards me like that im not going to think about where ill shoot, i'm just going to shoot




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