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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:35 am to
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35887 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:35 am to
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You really don't know how statistics work do you?

5,000 deaths out of 2,500,000 people is substantially higher percentage when compared to a relatively similar number out of 300,000,000. The rhetoric of your argument states that walking around in a war zone is less dangerous than being black and walking up to a cop car and asking for directions.






First off, you didn't start out with the statistics BS until you were given proof of something you initially didn't believe.

You asked for the proof of more citizens being killed by police than soldiers dying in Iraq.

When given proof, you then tried this BS tactic to explain away how it's ok.


It's not ok. It's not right. There needs to be a fundamental change in the police in this country.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20887 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:35 am to
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limits on protests


To heck with the Constitution, amarite?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10152 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:36 am to
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Napoleon


We get it, police are bad...

I hope you never need them
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74340 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:37 am to
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When given proof, you then tried this BS tactic to explain away how it's ok.



exactly. It's a common tactic on the Poli boards here.

They cherry pick one point to try and flaw an argument that they invent and say you started.

Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:38 am to
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Bass, Slick, and Reedus, let me be the first to congratulate you on your now federally protected city.


As much as I hate to see this shite going on, I do find it a little humorous it is being enforced on a primarily democratic populated town.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7131 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:38 am to
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See and this is the attack the messenger debate bull shite that the right fricking loves to death

Logic and actual facts are what the left hates to death. You'd rather operate on feelings and slanted statistics. Sorry you didn't like the grenade I threw down the hatch. Regardless, it had the same effect.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74340 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:39 am to
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We get it, police are bad...

I hope you never need them



Nice retort to me demolishing your counterpoint.

I had no issue with police, until I saw a 17 year old kid chocked out until every blood vessel in his eyes popped. All because a cop thought he had swallowed a pill.
Kids eyes were the worst bloodshot I have ever seen to this day, blood was in his eyes. All because they thought he had swallowed a $5 pill.


I hope I never need them either.



This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 11:44 am
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:40 am to
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Some of you are a little slow. Bless your hearts.


I'm slow. Monoplegic here. I type with one hand and have more detailed explanations. Sorry. You have the most reasonable responses.

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Shootings can be questionable before a complete investigation.


They can be questionable but just how far does a crowd go when the protest starts while the body is still on the ground? Do you start based on a biased eyewitness?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15007 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:40 am to
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Bass, Slick, and Reedus, let me be the first to congratulate you on your now federally protected city.


I feel so much safer. lol
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:41 am to
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Bass, Slick, and Reedus, let me be the first to congratulate you on your now federally protected city.

Pretty sure none of us are in the city proper. Either Ferguson or STL. But I appreciate the well wishes and we are anxiously preparing for the arrival of the Sith.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10152 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:41 am to
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Nice retort to me demolishing your counterpoint.


Keep thinking that...You skewed yours, as I picked the words apart

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All because a cop thought he had swallowed a pill


Did he swallow the pill ?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:42 am to
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They can be questionable but just how far does a crowd go when the protest starts while the body is still on the ground? Do you start based on a biased eyewitness?


There's no other kind of eyewitness. So it's probably the only reason you'd ever protest.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74340 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:42 am to
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Logic and actual facts are what the left hates to death.


No, you are throwing statics into a point that has nothing to do with statistics.

Its like if I say, more people in India speak English than people in the Western Hemisphere.
It is a blanket statement. I'm not asking for percentages of English vs non English speakers in each area. I am pointing out that one number is the same or equal to another number. That is it.

It wasn't even my fricking point. I had never heard the number until I posted a link to back it up.

Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:42 am to
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arrest of French and the journalist stuff did them in, IMO.


They have lost credibility AND don't appear to have this anywhere near control. Don't believe other LEOs are putting down on them. They are being replaced by guys with more experience and can bring down more force if necessary. I dun seen it before.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:42 am to
Yeah I have seen some bad shite too. One resulting in a death (innocent white guy shot, imagine that) and I have been harassed a few times myself for no reason. It shouldn't happen period.
I an interested to see what actually went on with Brown and the cop.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74340 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:45 am to
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Did he swallow the pill ?


even if he did, does it give the right to do all that force?
An underage kid?


I didn't skew a god damn thing. I presented a link to something when it was asked.

Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:45 am to
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The ACLU has just sued to obtain the #MikeBrown incident report.


Surprise, surprise!!!
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35887 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:46 am to
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Nice retort to me demolishing your counterpoint.

I had no issue with police, until I saw a 17 year old kid chocked out until every blood vessel in his eyes popped. All because a cop thought he had swallowed a pill.
Kids eyes were the worst bloodshot I have ever seen to this day, blood was in his eyes. All because they thought he had swallowed a $5 pill.


I hope I never need them either.



Had a gun held to the back of my head by Zachary PD. No warning, just walked up behind me and pressed it against my head. Told me to Walk forward two steps, then get on the ground.

His reason for doing so: he thought I was wanted on a bench warrant for failure to appear. I was white and late teens. The suspect was as well.

BRPD corporal grabbed me from behind, dragged me across a parking lot, slammed me on the back of his cruiser, cuffed and arrested me.

His reason: I walked out of a gas station, saw he arrested someone I knew, and I asked the friend if he wanted me to call his brother and let him know he was being arrested(DWI).

Cop charged me with "Interfering in an arrest".


frick cops.

Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:46 am to
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Do you start based on a biased eyewitness?

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There's no other kind of eyewitness. So it's probably the only reason you'd ever protest.

Yup, to hell with forensic and stuff like facts
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74340 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:47 am to
jesus, you are like five pages back, then current then five pages back. You must have a wonky browser.

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