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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:09 am to magildachunks
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:09 am to magildachunks
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Exactly.
However, it turned on the British when Adams and Paine and the like were able to use that incident to incite the feelings of revolution in the country.
The more you read about the lead up to the revolution, the more today's US looks like the colonies. The authorities in the US should brush up on their history, before shite gets really bad here.
I am glad this is finally going the direction it should be. We have a much bigger problem than race in our country today and this should be the focus of this. And quit saying it is, because it hasn't been for 4 days.
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:10 am to Napoleon
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The increase in police brutality in this country is a frightening reality. In the last decade alone the number of people murdered by police has reached 5,000. The number of soldiers killed since the inception of the Iraq war, 4489.
These are disproportionate sample sizes. Sample size is as important as the statistic. You are measuring a sample size that is almost 300,000,000 and comparing it to a sample size that doesn't even register on that scale.
Prime example of statistics being used incorrectly.This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:10 am to Redbone
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You are the problem. Not the solution.
I don't trust most cops. Sorry. Have a jaded view.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:12 am to bountyhunter
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bountyhunter
Valid point BUT what does it say when more people are killed by their own cops than in a warzone?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:13 am to Topwater Trout
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maybe with you but you know for the most part people have made up their mind and no matter what happens they will always fall back on "well he shouldn't have told him to get out of the street anyway"
I agree. We've seen it posted over and over again here from supposedly neautral posters about them having an issue with the cop telling him to get out of the road when it is clearly a law.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:13 am to Napoleon
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LINK
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Again, not being argumentative, but there are plenty of people that have parroted that number (like the film that you cite) and some say it comes from the USDOJ, but I have never seen anything that supports that.
In most of the articles that talk about it, they say there are no federal level trackings of the number (thus I am not sure how the USDOJ would release such a number).
Again, I am not saying the number is high, low or anything - it is just unsupported from what I have seen.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:13 am to bountyhunter
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These are disproportionate sample sizes. Sample size is as important as the statistic. You are measuring a sample size that is almost 300,000,000 and comparing it to a sample size that doesn't even register on that scale. Prime example of statistics being used incorrectly.
just asked to apply the link.
But, you say the sample size is different.
One is the total population of our nation.
It's not a sample or a poll. The point was. MORE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHOT BY POLICE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, THAN HAVE DIED IN THE SANDBOX.
That was the point. Sorry I had to yell.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:13 am to the808bass
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I can't believe I have to say these things. I'm somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun.
You say it because it's true. Civilization hasn't come as far as some would like to think. We profile today because generally speaking it works.
Look, you and I agree. The difference is you are an idealist with high expectations. I am a realist that has excepted the situation as it exists to day with hopes that people like you will improve on it in the future. I don't like it any more than you.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:16 am to cacspertheghost
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Can't wait to see how blames the protesters for this
How do you like your crow cooked??
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:16 am to Redbone
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We profile today because generally speaking it works.
its funny how one side believes we shouldn't profile but then they turn around and profile LEO...some would call it hypocrisy I just call it ignorance
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:17 am to Napoleon
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just asked to apply the link.
But, you say the sample size is different.
One is the total population of our nation.
It's not a sample or a poll. The point was. MORE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHOT BY POLICE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, THAN HAVE DIED IN THE SANDBOX.
That was the point. Sorry I had to yell.
You'll notice, he asked for a link because he didn't believe it.
When provided the info, he resorted to another tactic instead of admitting that he was wrong. Discredit the source instead of considering the info.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:17 am to AUCE05
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I would rather hear the exact details of why the shooting happened than the officer's name.
Oh, Wait, ... you want facts?? We gonna havta wait until the protesting, rioting, and looting is over to get that.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:19 am to Wtodd
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more people are killed by their own cops than in a warzone?
Just getting here, did I miss the link to this data..?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:19 am to cacspertheghost
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NAACP isn't even owned by black people
Who owns it. BTW don't you guys get mad when we say "colored people"?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:20 am to Redbone
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Oh, Wait, ... you want facts?? We gonna havta wait until the protesting, rioting, and looting is over to get that.
The cops are looting? They're the ones who possess the facts right now. They won't release any info on the cituation.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:20 am to Redbone
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Do you think the Boston Massacre was an egregious abuse of power by the British soldiers? No, the mob was assaulting the soldiers with rocks and other objects, and it is also suspected that the Sons of Liberty actually instigated the massacre. Go and read something, like the Boston Massacre Trials. Ironically enough, the British soldiers were defended by John Adams, one of the most logical patriots. LINK
You mean like the Chicago radicals who were causing shite tuesday night, and were involved with the cocktail and bottle throwing last night???
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:20 am to magildachunks
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You'll notice, he asked for a link because he didn't believe it.
When provided the info, he resorted to another tactic instead of admitting that he was wrong. Discredit the source instead of considering the info.
I know, I started off here on the Poli-board. I understand the attack the messenger style of debate. I also get the ignore style of debate that is common.
I don't get Redbone's style. He tends to be current, then go back four pages, then current, then back three. It's confusing.
I don't feel like looking further into these stats.
I do feel that police use deadly force too often.
Personal feeling, no links for that.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:21 am to Redbone
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Who owns it. BTW don't you guys get mad when we say "colored people"?
Jews and white people, but lets not deflect the thread in that direction
Yes it brings back racists tones spoken in 60's when civil rights was being fought over.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:21 am to Wtodd
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You serious Clark?
Good question. I'd like to know. I've never been checked in da hoods.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:21 am to GrammarKnotsi
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