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re: Some parishes seek local control on CO2 capture, but consider economic benefits

Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:55 pm to
Yesterday, I saw Today’s Country 105.7 fb page showing a small protest from a couple of days ago. And there is an update on Gov. Landry’s EO from today on the page.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:00 pm to
This thread cracks me up.

1) The Government is the one making these projects a thing. They shouldn't have, but they did. So that is water under bridge, until the government takes away the credits. Same way you took the covid checks to individual if you were eligible, even though you didn't agree with the government those out.

Now that we got that out of the way....it seems some people think, based on the replies, these projects are going to be sucking CO2 out of the air . That's not the case.
They are targeting Beaumont area and that whole corridor for a reason to capture the CO2 at the tailgate of the process plants/refineries.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:20 pm to
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The Government is the one making these projects a thing. They shouldn't have, but they did. So that is water under bridge, until the government takes away the credits. Same way you took the covid checks to individual if you were eligible, even though you didn't agree with the government those out.


Yes.

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Now that we got that out of the way....it seems some people think, based on the replies, these projects are going to be sucking CO2 out of the air . That's not the case.
They are targeting Beaumont area and that whole corridor for a reason to capture the CO2 at the tailgate of the process plants/refineries.


And yes.

The projects going on in Allen, Vernon, etc parish are point source projects. Not the direct air capture projects where these giant vacuum cleaners are constructed and use a shite ton of electricity and water to separate CO2 from the atmosphere to return the rest of the molecules back into the air and shove the CO2 downhole.
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Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:24 pm to
I thought we were done with this climate hoax. It’s always been a money grab
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:43 pm to
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I thought we were done with this climate hoax.


Why’d you think we were done with it? Because Trump was elected?

The Big Beautiful Bill actually made the carbon credit business in regards to sequestration a bit more appealing with increases in 45Q in some additional scenarios.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:45 pm to
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the emerging energy technology


What in the pseudo-science is this shite? Carbon capture does not create energy, it takes energy.

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with the potential economic benefits.


Key word here being "potential". The moment government subsidies for this tripe stops, so too does the "potential economic benefits". There's no economic benefit in a region being addicted to largess from an already heavily leveraged federal government.

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The Louisiana Department of Conservation and Energy is currently reviewing 34 applications for Class Vi wells, which are located mostly in the southern and central parts of the state.


Fun fact (and all you LA baws need to read this): Thanks to the 2009 legislature passing the Louisiana Geologic Sequestration of Carbon Dioxide Act, DNR's Commissioner of Conservation gets to decide when and where the state can use Eminent Domain to force you to accept the sequestration.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:57 pm to
If it wasn’t for the 45 Q tax credits there wouldn’t be any talk of CO 2 sequestration.It’s a scam that I would hope Trump would put an end to.
There is a danger of the CO2 sequestration will leak and ruin the aquifers.
LSU “scientists” are no doubt getting money from Exxon to push this bullshite.They say it’s safe and the CO2 won’t leak and destroy the aquifers but I feel if there is only a 1% chance of that happening it’s not worth it.
How in the hell do people live if they don’t have water?

Besides there are uses for CO2 being developed such as making bricks,production of concrete.
Some scientists in Australia are working on a generator that produces electricity using CO2 with no exhaust products.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27273 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:03 pm to
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I would hope Trump would put an end to.


He’s been lobbied not to, so he’s not going to from what I can tell.

Also…if he is going to yank the rug, he also needs to EPA and other bodies to repeal the regulations that caused this stuff to be brought about.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:06 pm to
Read something months ago that the US has yet to "repeal" (Idk what the actual term would fit here) any credit for any industry ever. That they always go to expiration. "Don't mess with mine, I won't mess with yours" kind of thing.

If that's true, then they're here to stay.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:16 pm to
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he petroleum industry is pushing this because it cures them of their carbon sins, like Jesus healing the leper.


They are "pushing" it for the tax credits. $85 per metric ton (1000kg) sequestered. A typical natural gas power plant can produce 5-10 million metric tons of CO2 per year.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:21 pm to
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Not the direct air capture projects where these giant vacuum cleaners are constructed and use a shite ton of electricity and water to separate CO2 from the atmosphere to return the rest of the molecules back into the air and shove the CO2 downhole.


DAC are still incredibly inefficient. Starting with a concentration of 0.04% of CO2 in air makes the process very difficult. If you can do it DAC tax credits are $140 per metric ton of CO2 sequestered.

But from the exhaust pipe from a power plant you are starting off with a CO2 concentration of 55% (the remaining mass is water and impurities). You can easily get to 98% concentration with 5 stages of compression and one dehy cycle.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:24 pm to
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I thought we were done with this climate hoax. It’s always been a money grab


The tax credits still remain. That takes congress to remove.

The Trump admin did however remove a lot of Department of Energy grant money to start up these projects and they are shifting those funds somewhere else. I don't know where.

With that said the big push right now in midstream is getting all that natural gas in West Texas to market and that market are data centers to support AI.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17530 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:36 pm to
The proposed area in Vernon is in the eastern part I believe.
How many carbons can a carbon catcher catch? And why does storing it help. Isn’t this a huge green thing to begin with brought on by big oil and Biden. I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Isn’t this a huge green thing to begin with brought on by big oil and Biden.


Tax credits. Previously explained.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 4:28 pm to
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I saw Today’s Country 105.7 fb page showing a small protest


I went and looked it up... 1st pic. She and I went to school together.



I don't get what the reference to Charlie Kirk is...

Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
1374 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:18 pm to
The president of the VPPJ whom is Jim Tuck said in an open meeting that "people against it were as guilty as CK shooter" for not thinking it was ok to approve it
Posted by lsuconnman
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 6:58 pm to
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Jesus healed the lepers out of love and compassion, not guilt.


That’s what big religion wants you to believe.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33867 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:56 pm to
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They are "pushing" it for the tax credits. $85 per metric ton (1000kg) sequestered. A typical natural gas power plant can produce 5-10 million metric tons of CO2 per year.


Yes. My point was no none “believes” this helps the environment. It’s just a money grab
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17032 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Maybe. Though they’d have to get creative, and might have to sue the company(ies) and/or the state.

That's what I was getting at. Create their own permit system through the local parish council then sue the State to stall things as long as possible in the courts.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
79787 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:30 pm to

There are people willing to pay others to pretend they are doing something useful?

It's kind of hard to blame local parishes for not wanting to get in on this scam.
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