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Some numbers ($) related to trophy hunting in Africa
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:08 am
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:08 am
First, Africa isn’t the US. Without a financial incentive to protect many of these animals for hunting they would all be dead and eaten by the locals.
Also, if bears in the US killed as many people as lions kill in Africa, bears would be extinct.
A 2026 safari hunt in Mozambique including a lion can cost at least $103,000. The average annual salary there is around $3,000.
Considering average US annual income, this is the equivalent to someone coming to your town in the United States and paying $2.3M for a single hunt.
Also, if bears in the US killed as many people as lions kill in Africa, bears would be extinct.
A 2026 safari hunt in Mozambique including a lion can cost at least $103,000. The average annual salary there is around $3,000.
Considering average US annual income, this is the equivalent to someone coming to your town in the United States and paying $2.3M for a single hunt.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 9:07 am
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:10 am to weagle1999
Outdoor board.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:15 am to weagle1999
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First, Africa isn’t the US. Without a financial incentive to protect many of these animals for hunting they would all be dead and eaten by the locals.
Isn't much of Sub-saharan Africa propped up by outside nations?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:19 am to bad93ex
Buddy goes to South Africa to hunt every 5 years. Costs him around $30k but he has never killed a lion. The PH’s there are brutal. He wanted my friend to take a shot and a local villager was somewhat in the line of fire. My buddy resisted and the PH became irate and said, “take the shot! If you hit him (the local) we will throw his body in a ditch with many others”.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:23 am to weagle1999
Say whatever you want, but I find the practice to be barbaric and obscene.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 8:23 am
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:23 am to Hoyt
Your buddy’s experience is not an indictment on every Africa PH. Definitely not mine.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 8:25 am
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:24 am to weagle1999
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Considering average US annual income, this is the equivalent to someone coming to your town in the United States and paying $2.3M to hunt.
Who’s getting that money?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:34 am to Porter Osborne Jr
The governments and land owners.
I know that in South Africa and Namibia the land owners own all of the wildlife on their land, while in the US wildlife is owned by the public / government.
I know that in South Africa and Namibia the land owners own all of the wildlife on their land, while in the US wildlife is owned by the public / government.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 8:47 am
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:49 am to BigEdLSU
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Say whatever you want, but I find the practice to be barbaric and obscene.
Poaching kills more and less profitable to locals
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:54 am to BigEdLSU
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Say whatever you want, but I find the practice to be barbaric and obscene.
The locals eat the meat that the trophy hunter kills. They love it. The locals aren’t allowed to hunt lions, otherwise they would decimate the lion population for dinner.
Lions kill humans. I don’t hunt, ever, but can respect a process where everyone benefits.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 8:55 am to Hoyt
That didn't happen
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:01 am to castorinho
I’ll never understand why someone would want to hunt elephants and big cats.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 9:02 am
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:04 am to Hoyt
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Buddy goes to South Africa to hunt every 5 years. Costs him around $30k but he has never killed a lion. The PH’s there are brutal. He wanted my friend to take a shot and a local villager was somewhat in the line of fire. My buddy resisted and the PH became irate and said, “take the shot! If you hit him (the local) we will throw his body in a ditch with many others”.
If this happened on private land then the villager was trespassing and possibly poaching.
My PH’s have always been professional.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:05 am to GentleJackJones
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:06 am to weagle1999
Like any line of business, you will have shitty ones.
When done properly, trophy hunting in Africa is a model of conservatism through herd management.
Americans pay an obscene amount of money to shoot an animal from a heard that has been specifically chosen as to maximize the viability of the future heard. The meat goes to the local villagers, and the industry provides local jobs as well, which allows the locals to buy food rather than hunting those animals fueling the industry.
When done properly, trophy hunting in Africa is a model of conservatism through herd management.
Americans pay an obscene amount of money to shoot an animal from a heard that has been specifically chosen as to maximize the viability of the future heard. The meat goes to the local villagers, and the industry provides local jobs as well, which allows the locals to buy food rather than hunting those animals fueling the industry.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:24 am to BigEdLSU
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Say whatever you want, but I find the practice to be barbaric and obscene.
If you don’t understand economics, just say you don’t understand economics.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:35 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Indeed, the people in some countries welcome Americans shooting the dangerous game. The American gets a trophy, the locals get meat, the danger removed (temporarily, until another moves in), and a boost in their local economy.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:42 am to Junky
quote:I get it, but this utopian view is hardly reality
Indeed, the people in some countries welcome Americans shooting the dangerous game. The American gets a trophy, the locals get meat, the danger removed (temporarily, until another moves in), and a boost in their local economy.
. Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:44 am to castorinho
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I get it, but this utopian view is hardly reality
Please share your observations from your trips to Africa
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 9:46 am
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:58 am to castorinho
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I get it, but this utopian view is hardly reality
No it’s not. The only thing keeping some of these animals from being wiped out is the safari economy.
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