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re: So how much after taxes a month do you need to live pretty much like you like

Posted on 8/24/18 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 5:55 pm to
Yep. That's the going rate if you live in my city and want to live in a decent area...
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:16 pm to
you are both retired and you have a 2K mortgage?
I don’t want to be the one to break it to you, but you failed at estate planning
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:21 pm to
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When financing a vehicle, the borrower is required to purchase comp and collision insurance in addition to liability insurance, so factor that in over 60 months, goofball.



So you're going to pass on collision and comp insurance if you pay cash? Why would you do that?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:24 pm to
Maybe 12-15k min

Ideally like 20k between my wife and me after taxes because we want to do stuff like build a house and still travel and stuff
This post was edited on 8/24/18 at 7:31 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:27 pm to
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you are both retired and you have a 2K mortgage?
I don’t want to be the one to break it to you, but you failed at estate planning



, why?

Why would his retirement planning all of a sudden be better if he had no mortgage but 400k less in his retirement savings?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:32 pm to
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My retired brother (triple dipper retirement) has about $7500. mo net income and saves about $2500. Home pd for but I don't know how he does it

You can't figure out how they live on 5K a month without a mortgage?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:34 pm to
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Wife spends $2500 for mortgage and the rest of the bills. I have $500 a month in bills for car insurance, gym, and home alarm. I pay $1000 a month for my F-250 and about 5k a month for hunting, fishing, drinking eating out, and other random shite.

Unless you make a ton of money you sound like a broke person with a high income
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5057 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 7:37 pm to
What I make now. My budget grows as my salary increases . I tend to put more towards debt(student loans) as my salary increases. Take home about $1,240 a week. This gives me about $1,100 extra each month to do whatever I want with after my bills & even my "entertainment" budget.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38910 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:32 pm to
maybe my retirement goals are different from yours
my number one achievement towards enabling my financial future was paying off my house

I can’t imagine a retirement with a house note
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:44 pm to
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maybe my retirement goals are different from yours
my number one achievement towards enabling my financial future was paying off my house

I can’t imagine a retirement with a house note


I understand that, majority of people are the same, but it's not necessarily the prudent financial decision. With current rates it's actually likely a somewhat poor financial decision, but it's a huge emotional burden, so I get it.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38910 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:48 pm to
I don’t know what my retirement income will be
all I can control is what my expenses will be

eliminate expenses and I can work within the income
I’m not sure how that’s an imprudent financial decision but different strokes for different folks I guess
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35555 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:49 pm to
It's nice to have a wife that's a high income earner and reasonably smart about money.

I do the budgeting and she's routinely concerned about money flowing out. Then I remind her we've maxed our retirement accounts and just banked 2k in savings after all our expenses this past month.


Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15834 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:50 pm to
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Unless you make a ton of money you sound like a broke person with a high income





I wouldn’t consider myself broke.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14832 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 8:54 pm to
It's all different levels of life.

I was OK, at 2k/month. Simple.

Got the taste of 3k/mo..enjoyed it.

4 and 5k/month great.

6k/month, I feel I should give back, but I don't. I rather enjoy seeing my bank account rise.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 9:53 pm to
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eliminate expenses and I can work within the income
I’m not sure how that’s an imprudent financial decision but different strokes for different folks I guess




Most people feel the same, but I'd you're sitting at sub 4% rates on a mortgage, cash flowing the payments and investing the excess is likely to prove profitable over a long enough period. If you've got 5 years or less on the mortgage, it's probably prudent to pay it off. If you've got 25 years left, investing and cash flow is probably more prudent.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:18 pm to
if you and your spouse are retired as the OP says and you have a 25 year note than you’ve failed in your estate planning
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7403 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:39 pm to
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$350


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:42 pm to
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if you and your spouse are retired as the OP says and you have a 25 year note than you’ve failed in your estate planning


Maybe.

Let's say you finance $400,000 @ 4% at 60 years old. Principal and interest is $1900/mth. You retire with $2MM for retirement 5 years later, a balance on the loan of ~$362k, and a net worth of $1.638MM. Invested funds are growing at 6% annualized.

The other guy pays cash for the home/second home instead. He retires with a net worth of $1.610MM. That includes the 60 months of $1900 payments you save also growing at 6%. It doesn't consider taxes. Is he really any better off than the guy without the note? It's not like paying off the house wilk ruin you or anything, it's just not always the best choice.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:44 pm to
Start by putting down the sauce. Your OP is almost unreadable.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132525 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:48 am to
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4K. 40% goes to insurance.

geez
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