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re: So DA George Barnhill had the same video in possession since the day of the Arbery murder

Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:09 pm to
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I never once saw him point the gun until there was a struggle for it. Therefore my previous statement is true. Not illegal to own a gun or have gun in your possession.


The driver of the vehicle is standing in the opposite lane of traffic with a wide stance. You can’t see how the shotgun was pointed at this point because of the shadow. But his stance indicates he has the shotgun drawn in some fashion that isn’t just sling over his shoulder.

The guy in the back of the truck is on the phone with his left hand and has a pistol in his right that is not holstered.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:59 pm to
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What video are you watching? Watched that vid frame by frame. It never happened.


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Again. What video are you watching. The man is on the phone. Once the first shot rang out he put his phone down and picked up his gun off the toolbox.


Watch closely. His right hand never touches the toolbox. He brings it to his left to send the slide forward after his left hand puts the phone down.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21677 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:41 pm to
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Once rushed by the deceased (hypothetical but corroborated by the DA) could the shooter have feared for his life?


You keep spewing this but there is no other video. That reasoning & explanations for the McMichael's not being charged came from the 2nd D.A., who has already recused himself from this case. Those statements were made before the actual video got leaked. That New York Times article was released April 26th. The video leaked out May 5th. The LEAKED video & this "SECOND" video you keep harping on are the same video.

The quotes you keep citing from George Barnhill are meaningless now since he is no longer on the case. Secondly, his statements along with the ones the McMichael's gave to police don't match up with what is seen on the video. Third, Barnhill looks like a fool claiming that the McMichael's actions fell under Georgia's citizen's arrest law when the law states the citizen's attempting the arrest have to witness A FELONY OCCURRING. The McMichael's (Greg) by their own statements never saw Arbery on or looking around the property in question which means they didn't witness a felony. At the least, Arbery would be guilty of trespass which is only a misdemeanor, NOT A FELONY. Barnhill's own reasoning for not charging the McMichael's was bullshite based off Greg's statement to police after the shooting. All this is why the GBI were able to come in & get arrest warrants for the McMichael's so quickly.

Between the footage of the video & George Barnhill's statements as to what is on the video & his reasoning as to why he didn't arrest the McMichael's, Barnhill looks to huge piece of shite as well. Barnhill is going to have his own legal issues if/when the Feds come to town & start sniffing around this case.
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Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7947 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:04 am to
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You keep spewing this but there is no other video. That reasoning & explanations for the McMichael's not being charged by him came from the 2nd D.A., who has already recused himself from this case. Those statements were made before the actual video got leaked. That New York Times article was released April 26th. The video leaked out May 5th. The LEAKED video & this "SECOND" video you keep harping on are the same video.

The quotes you keep citing from George Burnhill are meaningless now since he is no longer on the case. Secondly, his statements along with the ones the McMichael's gave to police don't match up with what is seen on the video. Third, Burnhill looks like a fool claiming that the McMichael's actions fell under Georgia's citizen's arrest law when the law states the citizen's attempting the arrest have to witness A FELONY OCCURRING. The McMichael's (Greg) by their own statements never saw Arbery on or looking around the property in question which means they didn't witness a felony. At the least, Arbery would be guilty of trespass which is only a misdemeanor, NOT A FELONY. Burnhill's own reasoning for not charging the McMichael's was bullshite based off Greg's statement to police after the shooting. All this is why the GBI were able to come in so quickly & get arrest warrants for the McMichael's so quickly.

Between the footage of the video & George Burnhill's statements as to what is on the video & his reasoning as to why he didn't arrest the McMichael's, Burnhill looks to huge piece of shite as well. Burnhill is going to have his own legal issues if/when the Feds come to town & start sniffing around this case.


Well since you have cracked the case I guess there is no need for a grand jury and a lynch mob should be assembled immediately.

Get off your high horse of zero doubt and 100% presumption and let the justice system do its job.

The only evidence in the case is not the 30 second video.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21677 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:18 am to
Have you read the entire police report? I have. I doubt you have.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165414 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:39 am to
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Have you read the entire police report? I have. I doubt you have.

You'd probably be better off wiping your arse with that police report
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21677 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:46 am to
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You'd probably be better off wiping your arse with that police report


Both the police report & Barnhill's statements as to why he didn't prosecute are both trash. I'm just saying I've read them while I know the guy I was replying to didn't since he was quoting statements made by Barnhill as fact. Too many inconsistencies between the video & prior statements given by several parties involved in this entire incident.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21677 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 1:18 am to
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The driver of the vehicle is standing in the opposite lane of traffic with a wide stance


What video are you watching? Watched that vid frame by frame. It never happened.



Lol Wut?

Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7947 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:01 am to
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Have you read the entire police report? I have. I doubt you have.


No, does the police report + the 30 second video make up all the evidence in the case?

I imagine there are 911 calls, there are probably eyewitnesses, there may be other video, the statements of the accused are relevant, forensic evidence, etc.

You've already tried the case and the trial hasn't even begun.

My defense of letting the justice system run its course is not de facto support for the shooter.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48708 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:59 am to
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Actually, yes it is.

Many shootings have been justified or reduced to manslaughter based on the belief that one was "in fear for their life". Whether real or perceived.

This is the standard by which lethal force can be justified.





You are completely wrong.

The standard is "reasonability" - would a reasonable person, under this set of circumstances, fear for their life or fear great bodily harm.

It would be chaos is the law judged every action on perception.


quote:

Does a reasonable person have fear for their life at the time they used lethal force?


Yes, or great bodily harm.

The actual perception of the person seeking the defense in not the standard.

If I have same weird phobia against redheads and I see one walking on the other of the street; I can't just walk over and kill them with immunity even if my sense of fear is real (perceived) to me.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:33 am to
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Citizen's arrest is a little bit different than citizen's execution on the spot don't you think?


I lol'd
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:36 am to
You’re bad at watching stuff
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