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re: Snap on tools are extremely overpriced

Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:37 pm to
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What about their power tools. How do they compare to Milwaukee, DeWalt, Porter
Cable, etc?


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This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 6:48 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:40 pm to
I imagine Snap On sells to businesses where the person typically isn't paying that extra money himself, but his company is, plus they'll probably deliver the part , making it easy for the employee, rather than driving on company time to a Lowe's or Harbor Freight
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102666 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:43 pm to
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no, i have craftsman hand tools that have never failed. Spending $2000 isn't a requirment to have confidence in one's tools


You likely don’t do heavy work day in and out with them.

However I agree snap on is ridiculous. There is a happy medium between harbor freight crap and snap on. Usually tool kits at a Napa such as performance tool work just fine for me
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2523 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:44 pm to
In 30 plus years as an aircraft mechanic my roll cab is full of snap on, mac,a few craftsman from my starter kit from A&P school, and yes some harbor freight. Over the years I've had to make lots of special tools by grinding, heating,bending etc for special one off tasks. I sure as hell am not going to do that with my good tools. I've got snap on tools that have been around for 30 years.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3907 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:51 pm to
If you use them frequently, many of their tools are overpriced but still worth it. Their ratchets are more ergonomic and won’t wear blisters on your hand using them all day, they are also slimmer and fit into tighter places. Their flank drive plus wrenches grip on rounded fasteners better than anything else out there and pay for themselves in short order for any mechanic. Ever had the open end of a wrench spread/slip when applying a lot of torque and bust the heck out of your knuckles....that ain’t gonna happen with a snap on unless you are are a gorilla. Their sockets are much less likely to round a bolt off and can take off semi-rounded bolts that others can’t. It’s little details that make the difference to people that use them all the time because they run into situations where snap on tools make the difference between it taking 2 hours or 2 hours + 2 more fighting stubborn fasteners.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:01 pm to
There are certain eras of Craftsman tools that have the quality to last. Thousands of the V series tools are still around and kicking daily, many having seen heavy use. With that series, Craftsman (Sears) developed the modern theme of their tools. The early years from the early 60's to sometime in the 80's are on par with pretty much any other brand. They fell off going into the 90's.

An interesting note is Sears-Roebuck's ability to be an industry "maker". Their patents and manufacturing rights helped launch or bolster many manufacturing businesses. Moore Drop Forging, the likely maker of the bulk of the V series tools, was a cheap tool maker prior to gaining production of the Craftsman line.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:04 pm to
I don't know if anyone is interested but a ton of information on tool manufacturers can be found at Alloy Artifacts. Here is a link to the modern Craftsman page:

Alloy Artifacts Craftsman
Posted by Cajunlostincali
Honkyville
Member since Sep 2018
582 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:07 pm to
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Snap On tools are probably worth it if you are making your living as a mechanic or body shop guy but for simple general use I wouldn't spend the money on them myself
Though this is true for new tools, I tend to scour the tool bins at pawn shops and pick up snap ons when I see them. Tools that will outlast me and still be there for my kid for a fraction of the cost
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:20 pm to

I have several Snap On ratchets/socket and wrench sets that are over 50 years old. When you amortize the price of their tools over a lifetime, or in my case several lifetimes, they look pretty cheap!
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
2089 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:26 pm to
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I am not sure why anyone would pay thousands of dollars for hand tools. Snap on is so expensive they are offering financing for 3/8” socket sets. I have an old craftsman set set and som stuff from Walmart and harbor freight that work perfect on my dirt bikes, side by side and trucks. I would love to have someone change my mind


Different budgets for different people.

Walmart and Harbor Freight?

That's like a Mitsubishi Mirage owner saying his car is just as good as a Mercedes S-class.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 7:46 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:44 pm to
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Says even things simple as a phillips head screwdriver work better than cheap tools as it is more precisely engineered. When he has stripped screws that other screwdrivers cant budge the snap on fits better and gets it done every time.


Try a Snappy screwdriver once and you will believe.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31553 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:46 pm to
#1 You clearly don’t make a living with your tools.
#2 Snap On offers onsite service
#3 Snap On offers mechanics really good financing options.

Craftsman ain’t your grandfathers company anymore
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25667 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:50 pm to
I just hate the name snap on because it feels like it’s for some completely different product
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:55 pm to
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Craftsman ain’t your grandfathers company anymore



I have my dad's Craftsman tools from the 60's and they are still good to go. The Craftsman tool set I bought around 1990 is still pretty much good.

Anything Craftsman I have bought in the past 10-15 years has been of noticeably lower quality. On the level of crap you get at Auto Zone.

I've actually always preferred the thicker Craftsman hand wrenches vs Snappy's unless that thin wrench was necessary. The thin wrenches are hard on the hands if you are really cranking on something.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13874 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:58 pm to
The concept of financing tools over years sounds ridiculous to me. I understand they are great tools.

I’m guessing snap on is like a full sized truck. Plenty of people finance it who don’t need it for work. 10% probably need them for work (both trucks and tools)
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:58 pm to
Besides high quality wrenches, SnapOn has a lot of specialty tools that are not available from brands like Craftsman.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:02 pm to
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I have my dad's Craftsman tools from the 60's and they are still good to go. The Craftsman tool set I bought around 1990 is still pretty much good.

Anything Craftsman I have bought in the past 10-15 years has been of noticeably lower quality. On the level of crap you get at Auto Zone.

Starting in the early 90's their quality took a noticeable slide. Anything before then is gonna hold up to every day use.
As Sears went down, so too did the Craftsman line. It was to the point that Stanley/Black and Decker bought the Craftsman line primarily for the garage door openers and lawn equipment. They really had no use for the hand tools, but recognized the brand recognition and loyalty and they decided to keep the full line. The Lowe's deal certainly helped with that decision, though.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:07 pm to
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The concept of financing tools

Has been around forever. Sears-Roebuck marketed Craftsman tools the same way, just without the tool truck. The Sears Credit card was originally conceived of with the goal of in-house financing of tools and car parts in their garages (of course it helped with everything they carried). Prior to that, they financed tools (and every damn thing else) in other ways.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26399 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:08 pm to
I remember the first time I saw a Craftsman (not Sears line) wrench with Japan stamped on the backside.
It wasn’t a good feeling.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
7081 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 8:12 pm to
It's all relative to what you are doing and what you need. I try to buy made in USA>
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 8:04 am
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