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re: Smith Shooter's Lawyer "My Client Was Not The Aggressor"

Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:18 pm to
Let's not forget, Will Smith has had anger issues in the past and was arrested for battery of his wife. He was no angel. He didn't deserve to die, but no one here truly knows what happened yet

I was guilty of jumping to conclusions when I heard what happened last night and was sure it was an attempted carjacking by a thug POS. So much more info has come out since then.
I don't think a thug POS would have been the first to call 911 and then wait for the cops. He wasn't being held at gunpoint by an off duty cop either, like some had reported.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:22 pm to
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except that lawsuit was settled and why the piece of shite was even driving a hummer in the first place


I wonder what the details were? Cop feared for his life? Did the perp sign a NDA?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:25 pm to
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i mean its not like its Drew Brees.

I think they'd have to call in the National Guard if that happened
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:26 pm to
True its not drew

I agree, but seeing the shooter I doubt his side of the story. It doesn't make alot of sense.

I know it is his job to do it, but this would be the shitty part of being a criminal attorney is representing a client that killed someone that is well known in the city.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25845 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:32 pm to
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Yeah ok. Shooting and murder totally justifiable.

/Sarcasm


And let's not forget that his initial reaction was to chase them down and ram them in response.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40214 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:34 pm to
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but seeing the shooter I doubt his side of the story.


you might be racist when...
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3590 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:39 pm to
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I've read only one gun was recovered from the scene


Superintendent was very specific at press conference. He was asked if any other guns were found. He said only one gun was "confiscated." No follow up because reporters suck.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44878 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:45 pm to
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Let's not forget, Will Smith has had anger issues in the past and was arrested for battery of his wife. He was no angel. He didn't deserve to die, but no one here truly knows what happened yet


OR he was trying to drag his wife out of a club to get her out of a physical altercation and she was giving him a really hard time about it.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85663 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:47 pm to
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This. If the perp's family has a pending lawsuit where the cops used "feared for my life" as justification for killing his father then that would be an interesting twist. Forces them to contradict themselves. 


Was settled out of court.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141393 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:49 pm to
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Pretty sure the family was awarded $4 million from that case.


I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288269 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:50 pm to
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OR he was trying to drag his wife out of a club to get her out of a physical altercation and she was giving him a really hard time about it.



so its ok to drag her out by her hair, mmmkay. Shocking perspective coming from what seems to be a woman
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141393 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:51 pm to
The lawsuit asked for 4 mill.

The city offered each kid 80K

The kids countered with 120k each.

I just read it. I don't have the link, but it was a fox sports website.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:56 pm to
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He then rear ends smith.


That is a felony. It shifts the self defense arguement to Smith's side. Hitting someone intentionally with a vehicle is assault and other possible charges. Do it to a cop and tent slap you with attempted murder.

So stop with the what ifs.....you can't follow and shoot people. He could have called 911 IF he was hit and run'd.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288269 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:57 pm to
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He could have called 911 IF he was hit and run'd.


he did, according to his lawyer
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85663 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:59 pm to
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pretty sure you're wrong.





I was wrong, they settled out of court. But still, I was replying to the cops using the argument for killing his dad. He was still awarded damages.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47180 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:00 pm to
I dont trust nopd at all on this case either.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:00 pm to
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Verbal altercation" ensued. What if he thought Smith was reaching for a gun? Stand your ground


You forgot "feared for his life"

Since these justifications are used successfully by cops a few times a week there is no reason they should not be applicable here.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288269 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:01 pm to
idk, i feel like they'll do everything in their power to make an example out of this guy, whether he's guilty or not
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:08 pm to
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IF someone rear ends you, there is no law that allows you to follow, stalk, wreck, and murder them.


This is still America, you are free to do anything you want unless there is a law prohibiting it, not the other way around.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:09 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72218 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:12 pm to
Witnesses say they saw Hayes with the gun approach Smith's vehicle.

Why would he rear end the man, have a gun out already, and shoot the man in his car in his back multiple times if he wasn't the aggressor..

even if smith was reaching for something, he had every right to try to protect himself from a lunatic carrying a weapon at his door.

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