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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:36 pm to CuseTiger
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. Him and the other 65 yr olds need to retire, go sit on the beach, and let their children run this country.
Sounds like my 80 year old mother could run circles around him. And she worked part time until about 5 years ago.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:01 pm to Scoop
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A better question is why would anyone above 65 wants to work? In my observation most of them that have at least a high school degree have a $90,000 Bus RV that is towing 2 Harleys.
quote:My specific concept of Hades in words.
a $90,000 Bus RV that is towing 2 Harleys.
A couple of valid observations that have been shared here:
Many Social Security-aged folks would retire if the question of their long-term Health Insurance were better resolved. It takes over $10k out of pocket for good supplemental coverage to augment Medicare for retirees. That's before deductions & co-pays.
Many folks aged 65+ made poor choices two and three and four decades ago that are haunting them today and will force them to be in the job market (as best as they can be) as long as they can be.
Additionally, some folks aged 60+ are raising grandkids or other relations and were not financially prepared to do so. Sometimes this is because the grandparents did a shitty job raising their own children, other times it my be that the absent parents were just shitty people (little/no fault of their own parents), or some combination of the two, also there's illness or legal issues, etc. All these scenarios can force older people to stay longer at work or have to get back into the workforce.
Tough issue.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:31 pm to StickD
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That one old bird's salary probably pays for two younger people.
and that old bird probably does the work of 4-5 or more of the young punks, looking at you millennials
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:33 pm to StickD
IMO no
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:38 pm to soccerfüt
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Many folks aged 65+ made poor choices two and three and four decades ago that are haunting them today and will force them to be in the job market (as best as they can be) as long as they can be.
maybe in some cases, but not all, it's good to stay active and have something to retire to as opposed to retire from, as long as I'm still feeling like contributing I will, long past the point of money being the issue
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:47 pm to LucasP
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If you're not rich then you should work. It's selfish not to work.
So then by that logic, if you're rich then youre selfish? I dont get it.
Also , isnt it selfLESS to not work if you dont want to, so that someone else could then have the job that you would otherwise take?? I really dont get it.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:50 pm to StickD
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Should people 65+ work
If they can still perform their jobs at a high level and want to work, then why not?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:10 pm to SuperSaint
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Baby Boomers ruined this once great country
Not again!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:21 pm to CuseTiger
Yet nobody took the bait mast cast though!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:24 pm to ihometiger
About to say we pay taxes at the same rate you do!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:27 pm to JetFuelTyga
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JetFuelTyga
Off Topic. Your avatar picture of magmar vs steelix is very ironic. Since Fire type pokemon have super-effective attacks against steel types.
I know its a political joke, just wanted to point it out.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:37 pm to 777Tiger
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and that old bird probably does the work of 4-5 or more of the young punks, looking at you millennials
You know, I was thinking about creating a thread based on a recent youtube video I watched about the differences in generations.
The guy who made it is very bipartisan, and reflects on the cultural and technological norms that create these archetypes we assign generations to. why generations are different 10 min
William Strauss and Neil Howe "Generations"
Also, I think the OP is mistaken with his premise. A 65+ year old should be upper level management or owner. If a person at that age is working jobs designed for entry-level, that says more negative things about the senior citizen than the millennial.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:40 pm to volod
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Off Topic. Your avatar picture of magmar vs steelix is very ironic. Since Fire type pokemon have super-effective attacks against steel types.
I know its a political joke, just wanted to point it out.
It's a reference to WTC 7.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 pm to volod
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If a person at that age is working jobs designed for entry-level, that says more negative things about the senior citizen than the millennial.
disagree, while I'm definitely not working an entry level position, sure as hell hope not after 34 years with the company, I have a couple of gigs on the side as well, the only thing that hamstrings what are some pretty good business opportunities for me, and great opportunities for the entry levels, are the lack of any work ethic, the inability to think a process through a few steps, and of course, the fact that they can't stay off their fricking phones for more than 30 seconds
ETA: and of course, the instant gratification factor with these brats
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:59 pm to 777Tiger
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disagree, while I'm definitely not working an entry level position, sure as hell hope not after 34 years with the company, I have a couple of gigs on the side as well, the only thing that hamstrings what are some pretty good business opportunities for me, and great opportunities for the entry levels are the lack of any work ethic, the inability to think a process through a few steps, and of course, the fact that they can't stay off their fricking phones for more than 30 seconds
I understand where you are coming from. However, your first line implies that you have become very experienced to reach the position that you are in. You have probably worked from low levels to reach to the top (or whatever tier you fall in).
Many 65+ year old do not even have that going for them.
Also, in regards to your other comments, it depends on what you define as "hard work". You have legitimate complaints and those are arguably issues of our time. However the further you back 30s, 40s, 50s, etc., you find that the concept of "hard-worker" or "elbow grease" or "work smarter not harder" is constantly changing.
This isn't a rebuttal.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:06 am to volod
yeah... in the vast majority of situations, if someone is 65 and doing anything close to the same tasks as a millennial, they suck at life
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:10 am to volod
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Also, in regards to your other comments, it depends on what you define as "hard work". You have legitimate complaints and those are arguably issues of our time. However the further you back 30s, 40s, 50s, etc., you find that the concept of "hard-worker" or "elbow grease" or "work smarter not harder" is constantly changing.
didn't reference hard work, just the lack of any motivation by the youngsters to work at all, especially without any supervision, as to the smarter not harder approach, no problem with that, that's always been around, but I think what's missing from that approach is that everyone should know what to do if ctl alt del doesn't work.... roll your sleeves up and get your arse to solving the problem!!!(even if it might include,... gasp,... dare I say it?!?!...manual labor
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:21 am to StickD
Right now I don't want to work when I'm 65, but I also might want to work when I'm 65...who knows and who cares, I'll probably be better at it when I'm 65 anyways
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:59 am to volod
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A 65+ year old should be upper level management or owner. If a person at that age is working jobs designed for entry-level, that says more negative things about the senior citizen than the millennial.
The typical pyramid structure of management at most corporations assures that the majority of employees will never reach a position in upper level management, it is not a indication of negative attributes, just simple math.
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