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re: Should Men Be able to Opt out of Fatherhood?
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:16 am to rocket31
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:16 am to rocket31
quote:Wait, what?
just as a mother can put her two year old daughter up for adoption, at any time, letting go of any financial responsibilities and the father can not stop her; its sickening
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:16 am to barry
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So we should compound the problem. Great fricking idea.
This is a debate on reproductive rights. If you are incapable of participating without resorting to outrageous straw men, perhaps you should start a thread on how terrible deadbeat dads are.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:17 am to slackster
Torrey 225,
I'm an RN that has seen and taken care of more children with deformities than I can count . Abortion due to rape ,incest and other acts are not are not the same as opting out . Some people view it as birth control .
I'm an RN that has seen and taken care of more children with deformities than I can count . Abortion due to rape ,incest and other acts are not are not the same as opting out . Some people view it as birth control .
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:17 am to Salmon
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I'm just arguing against the hypocrisy
Agreed, so lets argue correcting the shitty part instead of making it "fair" and making the problem worse.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:18 am to barry
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so lets argue correcting the shitty part
if you want to start the abortion thread, go ahead
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:18 am to dewster
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If you are incapable of participating without resorting to outrageous straw men,
Point out the straw man???
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:18 am to rocket31
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quote:A woman can put her kids up for adoption without the father's consent?
of course, he can go to court to fight it if he wants
What is going on here?
I have twin 4 year old boys, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that my wife can't just put them up for adoption if she wanted to.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:18 am to mmonro3
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Are people actually arguing that if they get a woman pregnant, then they can just skip out on raising the kid and never have to pay the mother of the child a cent? Get real people, im a millenial and I even think this is horrible. Kids growing up with no family is the worst problem in our country.
I completely agree. You shouldn't even have a kid to begin with if you are going to opt out of fatherhood. THAT is the main problem with society today. Like the old saying goes, it all starts at home.
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 10:19 am
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:18 am to dewster
Are we glorifying deadbeat dads now. I need to know whether or not to impreganate the world.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:19 am to shel311
Well. You'd be wrong then. Derp
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:19 am to slackster
Y'all know something? Excuses are like assholes, everybody has one!
Opt out as a father is as trashy as one can be.
This is what is wrong with this country now. People don't want to take care of there business.
Opt out as a father is as trashy as one can be.
This is what is wrong with this country now. People don't want to take care of there business. Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:19 am to Salmon
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if you want to start the abortion thread, go ahead
I don't have the energy.
The argument the men should be able to opt out purely based on the fact that women can, regardless if its a good idea is silly. Thats all im saying.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:20 am to barry
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The argument the men should be able to opt out purely based on the fact that women can, regardless if its a good idea is silly.
well I disagree with this
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:20 am to Salmon
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so lets argue correcting the shitty part
if you want to start the abortion thread, go ahead
Have fun with that!
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:20 am to anc
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The proposal stipulates that men should be permitted to have a “legal abortion” up to the 18th week of a woman’s pregnancy.
So now women just won't tell men they are pregnant until the 19th week? Seriously what happens if the guy doesn't know? It should be 18 weeks after he finds out.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:21 am to Salmon
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well I disagree with this
So you would rather enact a law that you feel is overall worse for society, just to be "fair"
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:22 am to barry
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Point out the straw man???
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So we should compound the problem
Your assumption is that I'm advocating one way or another when I'm clearly doing nothing more than pointing out how abortion not only eliminates the child's right to life but also heavily tilts the balance of reproductive rights in favor of women.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:22 am to fishfighter
Right, but the point is that women can opt out legally whenever they want, while a man has no option to opt out.
IMO, nobody should be able to opt out. If the woman can whenever she wants though, the man shouldn't be legally obligated to 18 years of being broke.
IMO, nobody should be able to opt out. If the woman can whenever she wants though, the man shouldn't be legally obligated to 18 years of being broke.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:22 am to barry
Society would crumble
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:23 am to Hangover Haven
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My wife has a friend that got preggers from her frick buddy... He told her he didn't want anything to do with the kid, which she was fine with... She was in her late 30's not married, and wanted a child... Unfortunately it sucks for the kid..
I'll tell you something I see happen more than you think.
A woman gets pregnant and tells the guy she is going to keep the baby but she won't hold him to it.
Guy thinks he's off the hook.
Woman goes to the hospital, has the baby.
She signs a form for the state to pay for her medical expenses and the hospital will have on the form a question. "Do you know who the father is?"
She writes "yes", and then gives the name.
The moment that is paid, DHS goes after the dad for payment.
RUH. ROH.
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