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re: Should a paternity test be mandatory?
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:01 pm to Globetrotter747
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:01 pm to Globetrotter747
The state has a big interest in establishing a father as easily as possible. Fatherless children stats are, um, not good. So that’s fair. As such, the state will not likely pass any law or requirement that tends to make it less likely to hook any second person to support the child.
Doesn’t mean I disagree with OP, though.
Doesn’t mean I disagree with OP, though.
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:16 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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How many? You think cheating is so rampant that what? 25% of children are born to a woman that cheated on her husband?
I am 65 years old and recently learned that my dad who was married to my mother for 51 years was not my biological father.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:21 pm to Barbellthor
The time to establish paternity is probably earlier. IMO it should be done when you get the amniocentesis done to make sure the baby is healthy - that's when the paternity should be established.
Men have a right to know this information. I can't think of anything more important in life. And you can be sure that if there were such a thing as maternity fraud there would be laws designed to protect women. Plus men would have to wear pink ribbons or someshit to protest in solidarity.
Presumably the rate of attempted fraud would also decrease if women cheating while not on birth control knew a test would show their wrongdoing
Men have a right to know this information. I can't think of anything more important in life. And you can be sure that if there were such a thing as maternity fraud there would be laws designed to protect women. Plus men would have to wear pink ribbons or someshit to protest in solidarity.
Presumably the rate of attempted fraud would also decrease if women cheating while not on birth control knew a test would show their wrongdoing
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:30 pm to EA6B
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I am 65 years old and recently learned that my dad who was married to my mother for 51 years was not my biological father.
Wow.
If you don’t mind, how did you find out?
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:34 pm to Globetrotter747
This is happening more often with ancestry tests.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:36 pm to iAmBatman
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I thought the OT was against Big Government??
It's about properly controlling what big government will eventually do later anyway, if the supposed father doesn't put up a bunch of cash.
It's a check on big government excess.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:40 pm to Antonio Moss
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Your friend is dumb and should have hired a lawyer.
He wasn't dumb, but the lawyers he hired may not have been as vicious as they needed to be.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:54 pm to Globetrotter747
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That’s fricking wrong.
No shite.
This scenario almost played out for my wife’s cousin. Dated a very pretty girl, got pregnant. He straightened up, got a good job, bought a house and proposed. She started acting weird and finally confessed right before the baby was born that she had cheated on him and the baby wasn’t his.
It broke his heart. Wasn’t about the girl, he thought he was having a kid. But screw that bitch for leading him on like that. You emotionally come to terms with having an offspring and then a selfish bitch rips that away from you.
Seriously women are the devil. There are zero legal consequences for their actions.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:38 pm to Globetrotter747
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Wow, I think 3-5% is high for something that significant.
3-5 % of the population is the equivalent of Jews or Homos
Seeing how much those two groups are represented in media and news, 3-5% IS high.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 12:07 am to iAmBatman
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I thought the OT was against Big Government??
Big government puts itself in relationships and child rearing already including birth certificates and listing of parents on it, so not sure equally requiring some kind of medical proof of each parent they list on birth certificates is increasing big govt. If it's going to have requirement already it should make sure it has some medical proof of both parents. They see baby coming from the mom, but it's her word and automatic if married who father is and it's her word and father's agreement if not married to basically be automatic after each sign the forms (standard probably varies across states). It actually could cut back on govt involvement in future disputes.
This fits OT theory that all women and men are sluts, so govt needs to verify parenthood medically upfront before it signs off on them both as parents on birth certificate and enforces parental obligations, benefits, and/or privileges it's created to regulate in future.
This post was edited on 12/25/19 at 12:45 am
Posted on 12/25/19 at 5:45 am to Globetrotter747
Probably a lot of guys would find out they had more children than they previously thought. More child support for everybody!
Posted on 12/25/19 at 5:56 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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It’s pretty easy to request one. No need to force it.
Idk man this 23&me shite that's coming out where dudes were so sure that they were the father but ended up not being the dad in the end...sounds like some good intel to have and pretty easy to do. If theres nothing to worry about then whatev, do the test and move on and be a happy family. Maybe if chicks knew that the test was going to be administered every time there's be a lot less deception and heartbreak and lies.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 5:58 am to Globetrotter747
This is why I'm getting the snip at 33. I'm one kid and done
My brother who's a year older than me has 3 under 5 years old. I'd lose my mind
My brother who's a year older than me has 3 under 5 years old. I'd lose my mind
Posted on 12/25/19 at 7:52 am to WaterLink
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Maybe if chicks knew that the test was going to be administered every time there's be a lot less deception and heartbreak and lies.
True. It holds women more accountable and there’s not enough of that in this world. I also like what another poster said about establishing paternity before birth. If some married woman gets knocked up by another guy it’s found out about before the baby comes, birth certificates are signed, and attachments are made. The husband has grounds to divorce her arse immediately and let Chad marry her or pay the child support.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 8:02 am to Globetrotter747
Sure. Let’s get that kid fully registered with our overseers right away.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 8:11 am to Globetrotter747
You have to go to a private lab and pay for it yourself too. I know of several guys who were told by the state of Louisiana that there was a 99% certainty they were the father only to find out years later that there was a 0% chance. I'm sure it has happened but I've never personally heard of anyone coming back as not the father on a state test. But years later it doesn't matter. You can't just cut ties with a kid you've been raising for ten years, blood or not. So pay for your test up front, and do it early enough that you can walk away.
This post was edited on 12/25/19 at 8:35 am
Posted on 12/25/19 at 8:27 am to SCLibertarian
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Let’s say John Doe is married and he and his wife have a kid. He secretly has a paternity test within a month of birth (not suspicious of adultery, just checking to be sure) and finds out the kid is not his. What recourse does he have?
quote:depends on the state. In a lot of states if you're married when the child comes you're fricked whether it's your bio child or not
In the first scenario, the husband would likely not have to pay support.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 9:42 am to Globetrotter747
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The thought of a man working through life to unknowingly support a wife who cheated on him and conceived another man’s child
How common is this? I would assume very common.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 9:57 am to Globetrotter747
Who would pay for these “mandatory tests” and how many women who “aren’t sure” would subject undue stress to men wrongfully accused of being the father.
I see what you’re trying to propose here, but in practical reality, it’d be nearly impossible to implement.
Oh well, Merry Christmas!
I see what you’re trying to propose here, but in practical reality, it’d be nearly impossible to implement.
Oh well, Merry Christmas!
Posted on 12/25/19 at 10:20 am to Globetrotter747
quote:ummm it’s a certainty. Balanced with the thought that you can be married and build a life for her, but you’re not whom she really wants
wife there is a good chance someone is trying to smash it.
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