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re: Shooting In Broward County High School
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:08 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:08 pm to Chad504boy
So the guy can bring his buddy and tell him to stay in that room until he starts shooting. Once all the kids run into that room just slaughter them while they're trapped in the room. Ok buddy.
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:09 pm to Carson123987
Shooter is a former student
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:09 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
Do we know if he bought that gun or obtained it illegally?
Makes a major difference
Makes a major difference
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:09 pm to Dawgsontop34
quote:There has to be a true underlining cause for why this is happening more at US schools than our other 1st world country counterparts
I feel like the left talks about gun control, and the right talks about mental health.
Here’s my thought: why don’t we do both? Kids are dying. We need to do everything we can to make sure this doesn’t happen ever again.
Is it guns?
Mental health?
something else?
there has to be a reason/reasons
However, we havent even actually tried to figure it out, which is maddening really
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:10 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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or just...not make it super fricking easy for anyone over the age of 18 to buy extremely powerful weapons made for killing humans.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:10 pm to AmericaOverParties
There is no good solution to this, it’s sad. I’ve thought about it a lot and almost every time I come up with a solution there’s a way these assholes can use it against you. Idk what can be done, but something has to.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:10 pm to Dawgsontop34
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I feel like the left talks about gun control, and the right talks about mental health.
Here’s my thought: why don’t we do both? Kids are dying. We need to do everything we can to make sure this doesn’t happen ever again.
I'm interested in hearing what type of gun was used in this tragedy. As a Republican who does own guns I am in favor of banning military style weapons from the public. This has really become a major epidemic in our society and doing nothing clearly isn't the answer anymore.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:10 pm to Tigerbait357
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Do we know if he bought that gun or obtained it illegally?
no
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:10 pm to Carson123987
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unfettered police surveillance, what could go wrong
You should assume you’re being monitored in any government building - including public schools.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:10 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Our society treats mental illness so casually, when in reality it's the cause of a shitload of our issues.
Awareness/screening/treatment across the board could only help.
The fact that I jumped in the thread at this point and I see even a few post like this is slightly encouraging.
And yes, a focus on increased resources and more attention and empathy from the general public in regards to mental health care would make for a much more content and less dead society in general. Oh and the prison population would decrease as well.
What we'll probably wind up with eventually though is the mentally ill being discriminated against even more harshly.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:11 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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or just...not make it super fricking easy for anyone over the age of 18 to buy extremely powerful weapons made for killing humans.
You have no idea how the weapon was obtained.
Nor do I.
Don’t act like you do.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:11 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Every teacher with a gun. Every effing one of them. Mandatory training. That's the only solution.
What will you say when a teacher accidentally shoots a kid?
Or a run of the mill fight escalates to deadly force
Arming teachers is not the answer. But countermeasure technology could be
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:11 pm to Chad504boy
The doors could be controlled remotely and lock down once a known incident is occurring.
That eliminates the room to room activities.
You arent just going to get rid of guns without a lot more casualties as many people believe it is our last line of defense against the govt going full tilt power mode.
That eliminates the room to room activities.
You arent just going to get rid of guns without a lot more casualties as many people believe it is our last line of defense against the govt going full tilt power mode.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:11 pm to Carson123987
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mental health is extremely hard to diagnose
I mean, not really
And to be honest, this seems like a far lazier generalization than anything else in this thread.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:11 pm to MrLSU
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As a Republican who does own guns I am in favor of banning military style weapons from the public.
Drugs are illegal but people still find a way to get their hands on them
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:11 pm to LSUGrrrl
A severe increase in mental health awareness/treatment would get us a lot farther than anything else, and it would solve a lot more problems than just this, IMO.
The problem is that someone has to know and care that a person has a mental illness. If it’s true that this kid had major red flags on his social media, either his parents - and every other adult around him - didn’t know or didn’t care.
The problem is that someone has to know and care that a person has a mental illness. If it’s true that this kid had major red flags on his social media, either his parents - and every other adult around him - didn’t know or didn’t care.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:12 pm to MrLSU
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bullet proof doors that can be deadbolt locked... anybody?
How is that going to help when the shooter pulled the fire alarm prior to shooting.
As I said earlier, this is why nothing gets done after these events. Anyone can think of a specific situation where the proposed change would be useless, so everyone eventually decides to do nothing.
There is no one size fits all answer, but the status quo is a joke.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:12 pm to Barbellthor
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Every teacher with a gun. Every effing one of them. Mandatory training. That's the only solution.
This is an overreaction. Do you really want every single teacher with a gun? I hope the ones who are fricking their students don't put it in a place where the student doesn't steal it.
I am all for people having guns, but I don't like the idea everyone having guns on them.. How emotionally educated to you think the average person is? You have that many people in one area with guns, there will be emotional reactions in which someone is going to go to the gun. You have to be realistic.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:12 pm to Yaboylaroy
As a teacher there are different points throughout the day where the if someone chose to hurt others there is not much drills and training can do. All you can do is try to minimize the casualties.
When you have 700 plus kids in one area you hope you can spot it before it starts.
When you have 700 plus kids in one area you hope you can spot it before it starts.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:12 pm to MrLSU
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As a Republican who does own guns I am in favor of banning military style weapons from the public.
military style weapons...hmmm.
What do you mean, automatic weapons?
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