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re: Shooter reported at Texas' Santa Fe High School: At least 9 dead

Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19567 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:21 pm to
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again, i've never said "ban guns"... not sure why this keeps getting assumed...


Because for the policies you imagine to be effective, some kind of ban will be required.


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cool... and i'd assume most gun enthusiasts would feel the same way, honestly...


No, certainly not the better educated ones. The ones that know the difference between a right and a privilege.


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semi-automatics, whatever, should be EXTREMELY regulated, so it's not as easy to end up in 17 year olds hands? maybe a serial number for each gun, registered specifically to that individual, and if that gun is stolen or lost, it's the owner's responsibility to report it or face the consequence of being responsible if that gun is used in some sort of gun violence? i say that because obviously a gun can be bought legally, then resold to someone illegally... so transfer the registration to the new owner, or report it lost or stolen, or assume responsibility of the gun regardless...


You've basically just proved you are a complete moron when it comes to a basic understanding of CURRENT FEDERAL LAWS. Go do a few days of research, you are just embarrassing yourself.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Nah. They're may not be as many, but if you Wiki Mass shootings in the US, there were quite a few with random shooting before Columbine.


You can go down the list of school shootings on Wikipedia. There are plenty, but I'm having trouble finding any that are A) by students of the school and B) targeted random people. Pearl, MS might be the only one.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:25 pm to
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may be time for the OP to update 1st post


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SANTA FE, Texas – At least 9 people died Friday morning in gunfire at Santa Fe High School, law enforcement officials confirmed, while area hospitals reported at least a dozen others were injured.

Police arrested a student suspect and detained a second person, Santa Fe school officials confirmed.

The dead are expected to include students and staff, according to a senior law enforcement official who was not authorized to speak about the investigation.

TEXAS SCHOOL SHOOTING: What we know, what we don't know

The attacker was armed with an AR-15-style rifle, a pistol, a shotgun and pipe bombs, the official said.

"Officers inside encountered a bloody mess in the school," the source said, adding, "Evidently this guy threw pipe bombs all in there. We don't know if any of them went off."



Houston Chronicle - At least 9 dead in Santa Fe High School shooting

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UPDATE 12:10 p.m.: The University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston clarified that it is treating three people: a male under 18 with a gunshot wound to the leg; a middle-aged woman who has a leg wound and is out of surgery, and a man in his 50s with a gunshot to the upper arm, near the chest, who is in surgery and in critical condition, according to David Marshall, chief nursing officer.

The latter is a school security officer who had recently retired as a Houston police detective, according to Joe Gamaldi, who heads the Houston Police Officer's Union.

This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73732 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:27 pm to
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Confirmed by law enforcement that suspect is 17 year old Dimitrios Pagourtzis.


This frustrates me that these shooters get to rob other lives and yet survive.

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n Texas, 17-year-olds have faced the same sentencing options as adults convicted of capital murder: the death penalty and life without parole. In 2005, the Supreme Court prohibited the death penalty for anyone younger than 18, deciding that the less-developed brains of juveniles render them less culpable for their behavior. That left only the possibility of life without parole as punishment for 17-year-olds found guilty of capital crimes.


I guess the death penalty is not possible?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:27 pm to
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Simma down. I'm not going anywhere near there.



I was just making a joke.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13874 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:28 pm to
Watching khou live coverage, they showed the shooter’s instagram, and the first comment was “Tigerdroppings sent me here”
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73732 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:28 pm to
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may be time for the OP to update 1st post


Would be nice, and to get a sticky if possible?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:28 pm to
What if sentencing is when he's 18 or 19?
Posted by TheriotAF
Member since Mar 2013
697 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:31 pm to
Hopefully the politics in this thread goes to the PT board and this thread can be more about the actual event.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74159 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Hopefully the politics in this thread goes to the PT board and this thread can be more about the actual event.


95% of the thread has been shitshow partisanship
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71121 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:32 pm to
It amazes me the amount of people hoping and wanting stuff to fall on one side of the political spectrum

Sick fricks
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:33 pm to
So the shooter is white......again

Have the "he's mentally ill" excuses started pouring in yet? I don't want to miss it this time
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:33 pm to
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This frustrates me that these shooters get to rob other lives and yet survive


I prefer when the suspect is captured alive. Allows our system to work and give an official sense of justice. Let his victims’ families face him. Put him on trial and sentence him to death properly. Killing him in a shootout isn’t as satisfying to me.

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I guess the death penalty is not possible?

No matter what, he will never be released into society again. Not as good as lethal injection, but still the same result.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:34 pm to
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So the shooter is white......again


Definitely a 1st generation American though. I'm guessing his parents are Eastern European but thats a complete guess.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Have the "he's mentally ill" excuses started pouring in yet? I don't want to miss it this time

Well he clearly is. Mentally healthy people don't shoot up schools.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105285 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:34 pm to
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You can go down the list of school shootings on Wikipedia. There are plenty, but I'm having trouble finding any that are A) by students of the school and B) targeted random people. Pearl, MS might be the only one.


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The Thurston High School shooting took place on May 21, 1998. Expelled student Kip Kinkel first murdered his parents before engaging in a school shooting at Thurston High School in Springfield, Oregon that left two students, Ben Walker and Mikael Nickolauson, dead and 25 others wounded.[1] Kinkel is currently serving a 111-year sentence without the possibility of parole.


If you have an hour, Frontline did a great documentary of how Kip Kinkel came to be the way he was. He had an intact family. Both parents were well respected teachers, and his older sister was a high achiever, who went on to be a college cheerleader. Kip never felt he measured up to expectations, and when signs of mental illness began appearing, neither his parents, his therapist, nor the school dealt with it properly. He spiraled further down until he eventually snapped. LINK

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74849 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:34 pm to
incoming ignorance
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15791 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:35 pm to
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I prefer when the suspect is captured alive. Allows our system to work and give an official sense of justice. Let his victims’ families face him. Put him on trial and sentence him to death properly. Killing


I wish it didn't take forever though. In these cases, let the family face him then as soon as he is convicted, carry out the sentence. Don't waste taxpayer dollars for the next 25 years.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6631 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:36 pm to
greek
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71121 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:36 pm to
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So the shooter is white......again



Why does this even matter?

What the frick is wrong with you people

Race baiting prick
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 12:40 pm
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