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re: SF officials to vote on law to stop 911 calls against Black people not breaking the law

Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52786 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:26 pm to
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If the 911 call is genuine in nature and not an obvious attempt to harass, then you wouldn't lose in civil court.


Wait, your liable to be sued?

What a horrible take by you.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12480 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:27 pm to
You'll get lots of down votes because people here hate SF and immediately shite on anything about it... much like its own residents literally do.

However, I support this and the absolute first class troll of Karens.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:28 pm to
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If the person is really guilty of rape, why should it matter?


Why does it matter with any other crime? Why do limitations exist at all, right???
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10597 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:29 pm to
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It’s not even just the false claims. It’s the ones that are 10, 15, 20 years old that are also ridiculous. There needs to be a statue of limitations on rape claims.


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If the person is really guilty of rape, why should it matter?


I agree with both of you. But there is a difference between some woman coming out 25-30 years later to say that she was drunk and taken advantage at some college party by a guy who is now running for office and a serial rapist from 25-30 years ago whose DNA finally got a hit. The latter definitely needs to be put away. The former is a little more tricky, IMO.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38878 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:32 pm to
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there is a difference between some woman coming out 25-30 years later to say that she was drunk and taken advantage at some college party by a guy who is now running for office and a serial rapist from 25-30 years ago whose DNA finally got a hit. The latter definitely needs to be put away. The former is a little more tricky, IMO.



Yeah I should have clarified. There were high profile serial rapist cases where the perp got busted because of new DNA evidence. Those people should be in jail regardless.

I agree that it's iffy for the first scenario you mentioned.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8628 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:38 pm to
I can see dueling cell phones. A calls the cops on B, and B, who is about to commit a crime, but hasn't, calls the cops on A who has just committed a crime.

Takes Hu's on first to a whole new level.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14260 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:39 pm to
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they are a deterrent if you call them for a suspicious person walking around your neighborhood.

Why would you call 911 for a suspicious person walking around your neighborhood? 911 is for emergencies. If the stranger is breaking the law somehow, fine, but the police have a non-emergency number for a reason. Even then, calling the police on someone who hasn’t broken the law is kind of messed up.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10597 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
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You'll get lots of down votes because people here hate SF and immediately shite on anything about it... much like its own residents literally do.

However, I support this and the absolute first class troll of Karens.


I don't care about downvotes. I like the law. People are throwing out all these scenarios implying people will be hesitant to call police. Meh, it's bullshite. If you have a genuine fear or concern and you call 911, nothing will happen to you, even if you are wrong. The law is for people like the woman in the park who actually lied that the man was assaulting her. It will have to be extreme cases of abuse or harassment, IMO. If I'm wrong about that and there ends up being frivolous lawsuits, then yeah, I would voice against it.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:01 pm to
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All the ones bitching about people not wearing masks, not quarantining, supporting BLM, and hating white men are all liberal.
That’s not your stereotypical Karen. A Karen is more of a middle aged, rich, racist, entitled house wife who is mean to restaurant workers. Think country club moms
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16992 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:08 pm to
Wait wait wait.

I thought describing the person doing anything by color was biased and bigotry.

But now, they have to have color of folks in order to properly dispatch the call?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10597 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Wait, your liable to be sued?

What a horrible take by you.


Yes, if you and I were in SF, and you were a black man walking down my street, and I called 911 because you look suspicious, and they ask what you were doing, and I lied by saying you were assaulting me so the cops would come, then you could sue me, and rightfully so.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:10 pm to
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In 20 years there won't be a tax base left in San Francisco

Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18023 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:11 pm to
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SF officials to vote on law to stop 911 calls against Black people not breaking the law b


I totally misread this. I thought they were calling for black people to stop breaking the law. I was way off.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10597 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Wait wait wait.

I thought describing the person doing anything by color was biased and bigotry.

But now, they have to have color of folks in order to properly dispatch the call?


No, where are you getting this from? Look, I haven't read the statute or anything, but common sense should come into play here. Do you really think this law will change the narrative of a 911 dispatcher AT ALL? It won't. God if it does then I will scream too. But nowhere in the article does it suggest this. This whole "sue" notion would come into play AFTER, if it is determined that the caller lied to 911 to harass a person based on race. This shouldn't come into play for average citizen trying to do the right thing.

Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:18 pm to
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ps - my Mom is a Karen and while it definitely is a racist term, it does fit incredibly well.


Have a sister named Karen and yes, she is a Karen.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14401 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:32 pm to
Kind of like New Orleans.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47129 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:32 pm to
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SF officials to vote on law to stop 911 calls against Black people not breaking the law


So, this is a thing in liberal cities?

Who knew they were so racist!?!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68150 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:35 pm to
Kharynn was pissed.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:51 pm to
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CAREN legislation.

No F'in way this is real.

quote:

It almost reads like a Bee article.

I definitely looked before I responded.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43333 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 2:59 pm to
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Yeah, I see Karens as both. I see the ones you just referenced here, and I also see the conservative hoity toity conservative types that want to see the manager.


Don't forget the ones that run to Next Door and call the police to report a "suspicious black man" walking through their neighborhood.

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