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SF officials to vote on law to stop 911 calls against Black people not breaking the law

Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10591 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:35 pm
I agree with this law. Although the headline reads specifically Black people, it's actually against any race, religion, gender, etc. And I like it. Damn it, if you call 911 on someone not committing a crime just so you can harass them because you don't like what they're doing, you deserve to get sued.

Having said that, it's amazing to me that even when liberals come up with a good idea they manage to eat their own.

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The San Francisco Board of Supervisors will vote Tuesday on the Caution Against Racial and Exploitative Non-Emergencies Act, also known as the CAREN legislation. The name is a nod to a widespread meme using the name "Karen" to describe a specific type of white, middle-aged woman, who exhibits behaviors that stem from privilege, such as using the police to target people of color.


Personally I LOVE the name. I think it's awesome. But.......

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All 11 supervisors have signed on to the legislation, guaranteeing its passage, despite criticism by some that the name is sexist and unnecessarily divisive.


Here we go........

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The board received written complaints from eight people -- several named with a spelling variant of Karen -- who support the legislation but object to its name, which they say is sexist and ageist and should be avoided.

Vic Vicari wrote that the insensitive use of the name "as a general purpose term of disapproval for middle age white women needs to stop." Carynn Silva, saying that she loves the name her mom gave her, called it a racist term against white women. And Caren Batides asked if the supervisor would want his name mocked.

"Yes, I am named Karen, and I do speak up for injustices on a regular occasion," wrote Karen Shane. "So could we attempt at coming up with some other acronym that doesn't vilify a whole group of people named Karen/Caryn/Caren?"

Reached by phone, Shane, who lives in a San Francisco Bay Area suburb and describes herself as a middle-aged white woman, readily pokes fun of her first name and said she's aware that even complaining about it is something that a "Karen" would do, but she feels the supervisor didn't need to cheapen what she agrees is important legislation.

It's as if he "opened the thesaurus and picked some words that would spell the name, when in fact it should be misuse of 911 or racial misuse of 911," she said. "By using the name CAREN, he's just perpetuating a racial divide. Granted it's not a protected class, but it's somebody's name."


It almost reads like a Bee article.

LINK to article
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37401 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:36 pm to
Cool. Can we now make laws like this for false rape claims?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70774 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Vic Vicari wrote that the insensitive use of the name "as a general purpose term of disapproval for middle age white women needs to stop." Carynn Silva, saying that she loves the name her mom gave her, called it a racist term against white women


She then demanded to speak to a Supervisor.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65601 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
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"Yes, I am named Karen, and I do speak up for injustices on a regular occasion," wrote Karen Shane. "So could we attempt at coming up with some other acronym that doesn't vilify a whole group of people named Karen/Caryn/Caren?"



ok , karen
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13872 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
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San Francisco


Godzilla needs to destroy this place in real life

Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
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it's amazing to me that even when liberals come up with a good idea they manage to eat their own.
I agree, but the stereotypical Karen is usually an angry conservative woman.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35458 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:39 pm to
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Damn it, if you call 911 on someone not committing a crime just so you can harass them because you don't like what they're doing, you deserve to get sued.
Sure but isn't it already a crime (filing a false report)?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51401 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:41 pm to
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also known as the CAREN legislation.


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134835 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:42 pm to
In 2 weeks, CA will be voting to repeal civil rights legislation so the state and private companies can discriminate based on race
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31893 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Cool. Can we now make laws like this for false rape claims?

They already exist
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19175 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:44 pm to
I thought it was already a crime to misuse 911 and/or emergency services.

But I guess those silly liberals out there had to make up another ordinance so they could show how cool they are and dunk on folks by making a cute acronym out of it huh?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10591 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Cool. Can we now make laws like this for false rape claims?


Personally, I think the punishment for this should be the equivalent of what the accused would have been. If "date rape" is 5 years in prison, then a proven false claim should be 5 years against the accuser.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20732 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:45 pm to
They named it the CAREN Act?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43048 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:45 pm to
What if the perp is a nindu duffin?


ps - my Mom is a Karen and while it definitely is a racist term, it does fit incredibly well.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13827 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:46 pm to
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The name is a nod to a widespread meme using the name "Karen" to describe a specific type of white, middle-aged woman, who exhibits behaviors that stem from privilege


So damn racist, but because it's picking on white people......

Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10591 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Sure but isn't it already a crime (filing a false report)?


Sure, if it actually gets that far. But it usually doesn't. Like the woman in the park with the dog. She lied to the 911 operator, but never actually filed a report. She got the cops out there though.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14392 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:48 pm to
Especially for progressives, but conservative political lifers love it too, existing law is NEVER good enough. Oh no. They have to "DO SOMETHING ABOUT...." instead of having existing law enforced or enforced differently. Never good enough, it is.

The corollary to this is once the new law is in place, they rarely IF EVER repeal the old law. Once new legislation is in place it might be kind of legislators to us constituents to sunset the old law. But no.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5318 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:48 pm to
Yeah that’s is worse than looting and rioting(which goes unpunished).
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134835 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:49 pm to
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Sure, if it actually gets that far. But it usually doesn't. Like the woman in the park with the dog. She lied to the 911 operator, but never actually filed a report. She got the cops out there though.


Keep this in mind. SF is worried about someone calling the cops on black people but it's perfectly legal to take a shite in the middle of the sidewalk
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Godzilla needs to destroy this place in real life

liberals already have
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