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re: Self defense or manslaughter. Video of shooting after road rage incident
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:28 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:28 pm to Chad504boy
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justified. shoot to kill. self defense isn't shoot to injure.
This! If it's justified, shoot until you run out of ammo.
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:29 pm to 7thWardTiger
Exactly how I see it 7thWard. There was absolutely no need to execute that dude , leaned over for the kill shot to back of the head. The threat was neutralized, you have the bigger weapon, step back after first two shots & guy is slumped over & making zero threatening gestures. I get it, "don't start nothing, won't be nothing." But that just seemed extreme.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:30 pm to 7thWardTiger
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:34 pm to banone74
What happens if he was already dead from the first shot? Do you get manslaughter for putting holes in a corpse?
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:34 pm to 7thWardTiger
If I'm on the jury, dude is home in time for breakfast.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:35 pm to 7thWardTiger
Self Defense
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:36 pm to 7thWardTiger
Justified
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:36 pm to 7thWardTiger
Uh guy threatening to kill you, comes at you with a bat. Looks justified to me.
Shoot to kill. Don't shoot to wound
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but the standing over him and shooting him in the side/back of the head is when it gets iffy.
Shoot to kill. Don't shoot to wound
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:38 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Justice is served. When I'm defending myself I'm not going to pause and consider how many times I need to shoot someone to feel safe. Fight or flight.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:41 pm to banone74
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Exactly how I see it 7thWard. There was absolutely no need to execute that dude , leaned over for the kill shot to back of the head. The threat was neutralized, you have the bigger weapon, step back after first two shots & guy is slumped over & making zero threatening gestures. I get it, "don't start nothing, won't be nothing." But that just seemed extreme.
Wrong. This is how you lose, and you don't want to lose.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:42 pm to 7thWardTiger
He isn't shooting for the other mans safety or feelings. He is shooting to defend himself against an armed aggressor.
I don't give a damn how many times he shot him.
I don't give a damn how many times he shot him.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:43 pm to 7thWardTiger
What did he pull out of his trunk? A pipe?
Anyway, you shoot until the threat is nuetralized. I agree that it's a close call here, but I wouldn't convict him.
Anyway, you shoot until the threat is nuetralized. I agree that it's a close call here, but I wouldn't convict him.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:43 pm to knight_ryder
Just took a concealed carry class. I'm interested in what led this this altercation. If the shooter did something to instigate this; it's not good on him.
That said; just watching the video only, shooter was right to defend himself and others from a situation he assumed could cause serious harm to himself and/or others.
That said; just watching the video only, shooter was right to defend himself and others from a situation he assumed could cause serious harm to himself and/or others.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:43 pm to MrLarson
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I don't give a damn how many times he shot him.
Yep. He could've gone across the street for a steak dinner, caught a movie, then come back and put another magazine into the dude. I'd still acquit.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:45 pm to 7thWardTiger
Do you happen to know where this happened and when?
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Look at it from the bat guy's perspective. I'm shot once, but I'm still alive. The guy who shot me still can shoot me again so I'm going to do whatever is necessary to not get shot again such as keep swinging the bat after I gain my composure.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:46 pm to 7thWardTiger
it's kind of alarming how slow the guy gets back in the car while the guy is swinging 
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:48 pm to pjab
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Look at it from the bat guy's perspective.
I don't care about his perspective. He initiated the situation.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:49 pm to Carson123987
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it's kind of alarming how slow the guy gets back in the car while the guy is swinging
I know the shooter seemed so calm, like maybe he has done this before...
The only shot that I would question is the last one.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 2:53 pm to MrLarson
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I don't care about his perspective. He initiated the situation.
The point im trying to make is you are going to do whatever it takes to stay alive which makes you a threat.
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