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re: Seattle 1.75 Cents/oz Sugar TAX

Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by BamaSaint
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Posted by CajunSuperJeff
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:41 pm to
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seattle has nurses that help people do heroine? 

how does that register as okay or normal?

They rant about this on the radio all the time. It's not okay or normal, it is Seattle.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:43 pm to
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Speaking of boulder, did yall know that most cities in colorado charge you for plastic bags at the grocery store?





Really?


My chemist fact of the day: one paper grocery bag cost more to make and do more environmental damage than 10 plastic bags
Posted by CajunSuperJeff
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:43 pm to
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most cities in colorado charge you for plastic bags at the grocery store?

They charge us 5 cents per bag for paper and plastic bags in Washington.
Posted by TDFreak
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:43 pm to
I think Chicago did the same thing. And after everyone got pissed, they repealed it.

Give it time.
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:43 pm to
Proof?
Posted by jdeval1
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:47 pm to
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We tax alcohol and tobacco which are also unhealthy. Don’t see a problem with this

What about a cheeseburger and fries tax? Fried chicken? How about we just tax people that don't work out 30 minutes per day?
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:56 pm to
Yep, people who say that have a very short-sighted view of the slippery slope this creates.

You can make a case for almost anything being "bad" for you. Why single out sugary drinks? What else will be added? Where do we stop?

It's simply a money grab veiled in "protecting" the populace.
Posted by Civildawg
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:58 pm to
Yep. In breck its 10 cents a bag, in boulder i think its 25 cents
Posted by LSUEnvy
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:59 pm to
Good sugar is a killer
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:59 pm to
liberals love their taxes.

they always love to spend other peoples money.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:03 pm to
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It's basically a regressive tax on poor people and minorities.



Maybe so but it’s also taxing unhealthy things (be it tobacco or soda) and hopefully goes to help mitigate the costs associated with it so there are less external costs on the rest of us.
Posted by jdeval1
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:03 pm to
I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money. -Thomas Sowell
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:04 pm to
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Good sugar is a killer
This is dumb. Do you know what fuels the body?
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:08 pm to
Sounds good to me
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:09 pm to
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This is dumb. Do you know what fuels the body?


Protein, carbohydrates, and fat
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:13 pm to
I'll be surprised if this actually raises the tax revenue the city expects. Many of the localities that started sugar taxes have not seen the tax grab benefits they expected.

Generally, the cities have overturn the law because of the outcries from their residents or the areas around the county see spikes in sales.

Beverages are very elastic goods so this will likely drive 40-50% declines in beverage sales from those impacted.

Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:16 pm to
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Beverages are very elastic goods so this will likely drive 40-50% declines in beverage sales from those impacted.


If the goal is to make people think about the purchase and decrease consumption and thus make the population healthier then I would think that the tax is a success. If the goal is just a money grab then not so much.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:17 pm to
People that want to drink coke will just drive to the burbs and buy it in quantity. It's pointless
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:19 pm to
from the link-

quote:

"I'm just very excited,” said Jim Krieger, who is on the committee for Seattle Healthy Kids Coalition and is the executive director of Health Food America. 

“The hope is consumption of the unhealthy product -- which causes heart disease, diabetes -- will go down, the sugary drinks to go down, and we fully expect that to be the case,” Krieger said.



Then this-

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KIRO7 has talked with worried business owners, but City Council members say they’ve looked at data from other cities that have this tax. 

“Do you have any concerns at all about this hurting local businesses and driving shoppers out of Seattle?” KIRO7’s Deedee Sun asked City Council members at the press conference on Friday. 

“We did not see any data that really shored up the argument that this hurts local businesses,” said Lorena González, a Seattle City Council member. 

“There’s not a lot of cross-border shopping. People realize it’s not worth my while,” Krieger said



So they say the goal for this tax is to reduce the consumption and purchase of sugared drinks. Then they admit they've carefully studied the impact in other cities and have learned people are going to drink soda anyhow. Truth is, they just want more money. They don't to disincentive sugar intake.
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