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re: Screw The Advocate

Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39551 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:00 pm to
Advocate website always aids up my browser anyway with all the ads and shite.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:07 pm to
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You get what you pay for.


This saying doesn't even make sense for online news. I don't pay for WAFB or WBRZ content and I'm fine with their sites
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58805 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:16 pm to
Did it ever occur to you that the free model is why it sucks now?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:16 pm to
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This saying doesn't even make sense for online news.

It really hasn't made sense for news at all for a long time. Television news has been ad supported for many decades.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Screw The Advocate


How dare they not give you something for free.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 1:37 pm to
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i believe Georges (advocate owner) is worth right at 1 billion. Pretty rich for not being too bright.

He's going to lose his arse on this. Blockbuster used to be worth a lot of money too.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Are you trying to pretend that ad-supported businesses aren't a thing? Or that every ad-supported content site is trash?


When it comes to interface, websites that are overrun with ads are trash, yes.

Ad-supported businesses are a thing, but the ads have to be enough to support the business. In the case of news websites, that's not the case.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:10 pm to
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It really hasn't made sense for news at all for a long time. Television news has been ad supported for many decades.


Right. There is more money in tv ads than there are in online news ads.
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1129 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Pumping up their numbers. I save them for crawfish boils.
call 388-0200 and give ur address and ask for a stop - they will do it in 24 hours -



Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:29 pm to
But they won a journalism award for fighting racism and trump and stuff.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105146 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:35 pm to
If someone writes something not worth reading and tries to charge for it, does anyone really give a damn?

The Advocate’s reporting in general has been shite for quite a while now, so charging for the right to read their articles means I no longer give them clicks for local stories.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14536 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:36 pm to
wrong - how so? Call 388-0200 and ask for yourself - believe me I know.
Posted by SuperflyLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1129 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:44 pm to
Must have better luck than me then. I've called numerous times over the past few years, they still throw a copy in my drive every Friday morning. 1 in 5 make it down the storm drain.

Edit: I'm talking about the shitty free Southeast edition, I've never had a paid subscription.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 2:49 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 2:50 pm to
You have to pay for the business report?
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10644 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:04 pm to
Pay to fund swamp pulpers.
Naw
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:30 pm to
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When it comes to interface, websites that are overrun with ads are trash, yes.
theadvocate.com is trashy as frick with all those ads, yes. The solution is less intrusive ads.
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Ad-supported businesses are a thing, but the ads have to be enough to support the business. In the case of news websites, that's not the case.
Plenty of news sites seem to make it work.

Anyway, as far as I know, the advocate publishes little to no exclusive, quality, or valuable content. Basically anything the advocate reports can be found elsewhere, for free. Am I wrong?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28716 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:32 pm to
TD's gives faster breaking and more accurate news than The Advocate. Sure you have to wade through a ton of shite posts but nothing worse than you would find in Advocate comments. The Advocate is a wannabe fake news MSM.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Right. There is more money in tv ads than there are in online news ads.
Well sure, but it's also orders of magnitude more expensive to produce a TV news show than it is to run a website.

It's just hard to imagine a site like the advocate generating more revenue with subscriptions than it would by just getting rid of the trashy ads and switching to less intrusive, higher quality ads. When you visit the home page and you can't even read the top headline due to gigantic ads, I'd imagine their bounce rate is atrocious.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:46 pm to
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Plenty of news sites seem to make it work.


Every day, more and more newspapers, including the big national ones, are moving behind a paywall.

Now, the tv news websites, those don't seem to be moving in that direction. Their websites aren't getting any more online ad money than the newspapers.

However, tv ad dollars are still stronger than newspaper ad dollars. Think about it, tv stations can run local ads on not only newscasts but also throughout the day.

So tv stations can afford to still "give away" online content.

Honestly, I see the entire model for newspapers - whether in print or online - changing.

TV news websites are going to be the place for the free, breaking news, "just the facts" content.

The successful online newspapers are going to be the ones that shun the minute to minute fact updates, and instead focus on longer-form stories and analysis. Not unlike a magazine.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 3:49 pm to
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Well sure, but it's also orders of magnitude more expensive to produce a TV news show than it is to run a website.


But as I said in another response, they sell ads for time all day long, newscasts and not.

Plus, take WWL tv for example, they have always been 100 percent tv ad supported.

You just can't compare tv to newspaper.

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It's just hard to imagine a site like the advocate generating more revenue with subscriptions than it would by just getting rid of the trashy ads and switching to less intrusive, higher quality ads. When you visit the home page and you can't even read the top headline due to gigantic ads, I'd imagine their bounce rate is atrocious.


The Advocate is going to have to invest in higher-quality journalism with this subscription fee. If they don't improve the content and the quality of the website, this will surely fail.
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