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re: Scientists Say It’s More Stressful to Be a Waiter Than a Neurosurgeon

Posted on 2/27/16 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18465 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 10:29 pm to
I heard a report years ago about stress and monitoring it. This study monitored vital signs of cardio thoracic surgeons throughout an entire week.

The startling result was that they suffered the least amount of stress when they were in surgery.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66996 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 10:39 pm to
Only women and weird guys stress over their jobs.
At any level.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
8057 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 10:40 pm to
Listening to Ben Carson proves this.

Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

I believe it. Typically the dumber you are, the more stressful your life will be.



/thread
Posted by Joehat
New Orleans West
Member since Jun 2011
1108 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 10:46 pm to
Typically,
The more money you make,
The more stress you encounter.

Not for all, but just in my experience.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
9931 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 10:52 pm to
Don't think so
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21526 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 11:04 pm to
I'm atypical. The more money I make, the less stress.

But I don't have much stress. I've avoided debt and children.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

Typically,
The more money you make,
The more stress you encounter.

Not for all, but just in my experience


Ok P-Diddy! For real though I do know what you are talking about but that is only if you try to live beyond your means, don't pay your taxes or do something else dumb like that. The post I was replying to said the dumber you are the more stressful your life will be and I agree with that 100% no matter if you make $10,000 a year or $10,000,000 a year.
Posted by Mullet Flap
Lysdexia
Member since Jun 2015
4208 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

I love how the term "scientists" automatically lends more validity to any bull shite they may spew.





And out come the anti-science conspiracists


I was wondering when they'd pop their little heads out of their holes
Posted by MaroonWhite
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Member since Oct 2012
3784 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 12:02 am to
I waited tables and worked in the restaurant business in college, and I can attest to the fact that it can be incredibly stressful.

This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 1:06 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 12:02 am to
Dealing with brains is less stressful than dealing with assholes.
Posted by MaroonWhite
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Member since Oct 2012
3784 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 12:04 am to
quote:

Dealing with brains is less stressful than dealing with assholes.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36821 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 12:12 am to
Neurosurgeons don't get in the weeds.
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 12:54 am to
Being a waiter was one of the worst jobs I've ever had. Granted, it was nice bringing home money every night, but still one of the most soul sucking experiences right up there with retail.
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
3145 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 1:06 am to
quote:


The startling result was that they suffered the least amount of stress when they were in surgery


Lawyer here. I am at ease the most when I am actually on my feet in front of an audience in court. Don't have to worry about phones ringing or emails or clients, I can just focus and execute.

Edit: just to clarify, I know neurosurgery is harder than what I do.
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 1:09 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69240 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 1:20 am to
The boats, self-driving cars, sexy doctor groupies and various luxuries take the edge off, unlike a $1.22 tip on a $75 tab.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 1:53 am to
Hopefully, the waiter that doesn't put a thumb into my mashed potatoes and the neurosurgeon that doesn't put a thumb into my thinker are both smarter than the scientist that wrote this stupid study.
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 1:54 am
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 3:00 am to
No shite baw, I don't get more edumucated to get a harder job, I get more edumucated to get an easier job!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
140762 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 7:33 am to
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Is this real life?
Yes and no.

Folks are often able to reset their stress level in accordance to their job. A low stress individual will reset toward that lower stress point over time, even in a much more stressful environment. Likewise, a high stress, stressed-out individual will often eventually stress-out in what should be a low key situation.

It usually boils down to coping mechanisms, either innate or learned (TM, meditation, yoga, etc) E.g., lower stress equates to higher focus on the task at hand.

In neurosurgery, working a quarter millimeter from delicate vessels equates to high risk. Damaging the vessel can be catastrophic. So can inadequately completing the task at hand. There is no room for distraction. So focus is directed not at what might happen, but what is happening -- the task at hand. Everything else including stress is distraction.

Now understand too, there is a high degree of sample self-selection in the neurosurgery vs waitress stress level equation. An individual unable to manage stress won't end up as neurosurgeon. Just won't happen. They will either realize the field is not for them, or they will be promptly weeded out. On the other hand, an individual who is self-destructive d/t being continually stressed out is far more likely to engage unhealthy habits noted in the OP (smoking, drinking, drugs, etc), and underperform in the workplace as a result of stress and associated behavior.

Years ago in an attempt to restructure medicare payments away from surgery and toward primary care, the same kind of stress related questions were asked of Heart Surgeons and Family Practitioners. The Family Practitioners claimed more stress. The salient question . . . what would respective stress levels be if the jobs were switched?

So "is this real life" is kind of a chicken or egg question.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175700 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 7:38 am to
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They don't have packed schedules because them messing up means death. A waiter messing up means table 9 got a medium well burger instead of medium

For any person with an iq over a rock the neurosurgeon would be more stressful. However, smart people handle stress better which is why this study and skewed dumb results


I've done it before and it can be a stressful job. Particularly if you have character and care about your job no matter how menial it may be.

I used to work with a woman who is now a well to do chemical engineer who had almost complete mental breakdowns trying to wait tables.

When it gets really really busy it can be stressful. It's an exercise in critical path management whether or not people realize it. And to be very good at it takes more skill than most of the people on here have.

Anyone can be an average server. It actually takes some intelligence and experience to be elite.
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