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re: Scientifically speaking...is everything we're currently doing just fighting evolution?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:24 pm to PrivatePublic
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:24 pm to PrivatePublic
I’ve been thinking this for years now. It’s an interesting subject. You could actually make the argument that humans have, in many ways, made evolution obsolete through technology.
If you think about it, our use of technology and the way we pass information down through generations have increased our stature on this planet much faster than natural selection ever could. (Of course, evolution got us to the starting line.)
And it’s not that far-fetched to predict that gene editing will quite literally make evolution obsolete. Even if it takes 200 years to happen, that’s more like seconds on the evolutionary timeline.. only 3-4 generations.
If you think about it, our use of technology and the way we pass information down through generations have increased our stature on this planet much faster than natural selection ever could. (Of course, evolution got us to the starting line.)
And it’s not that far-fetched to predict that gene editing will quite literally make evolution obsolete. Even if it takes 200 years to happen, that’s more like seconds on the evolutionary timeline.. only 3-4 generations.
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:26 pm to OweO
quote:your theory is invalid and you should have been culled 40 years ago
No. This is my theory. We have evolved in a mental capacity that has made the "physically weak" stronger than before. And we have adapted through medical advancements. So doing what we are doing is part of us evolving.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:30 pm to PrivatePublic
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Scientifically speaking...is everything we're currently doing just fighting evolution?
I say by far the worst problem is letting people with IQs under say 115 (one SD above average) as well as people with congenital conditions and a propensity to be fat* reproduce.
* lower metabolisms have evolutionary benefits in certain times but today they present more of a liability.
While I am (partially) kidding we have spent centuries building a world where natural selection isn't necessary for the survival of the species. What we are doing today vis a vis Covid-19 is a mere grain of sand on a beach.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:48 pm to PrivatePublic
Its impossible to "fight" evolution. Our medical advancements allowing the sick or weak to survive and reproduce are the very product of evolution making us who we are. If the planet survives, on a long enough timeline, the human race will split into two or more species who will share us as a common ancestor.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:49 pm to PrivatePublic
When another version of this virus emerges and targets the young you might have a different opinion. And that's not far fetched.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:50 pm to PrivatePublic
quote:That is all medicine is, really.
Scientifically speaking...is everything we're currently doing just fighting evolution?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:51 pm to PrivatePublic
We'll get back on track once we can start producing designer babies and detecting genetic anomalies prior to birth so we can abort them.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:07 pm to PrivatePublic
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is everything we're currently doing just fighting evolution?
No the corona is targeting people over 60, people who already have grandchildren. They've already passed on their DNA. So no, this is not natural selection at work here.
The death of geriatrics and the middle-aged, people who have already had children, has no effect on the evolution of man.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:08 pm to PrivatePublic
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Scientifically speaking...is everything we're currently doing just fighting evolution?
You’ve just described medicine
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:09 pm to PrivatePublic
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old and sick can live.
What if one of those old and sick is the person who ultimately cures Covid-19?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:17 pm to PrivatePublic
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Call me heartless but I'm just analyzing all of this through Darwin's eyes.
Darwins theories of evolution are so outdated.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:20 pm to Walt OReilly
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The young and virile are dying at a rapid pace right now
Sorry Walt these folks don’t read do any maths or think for themselves. They only know what they have been told. Don’t beat yourself up over their down votes
Posted on 3/27/20 at 9:53 pm to PrivatePublic
Can you give examples?
People are still reproducing.
The young are the least affected right now. How are they not giving them the best shot at life? There’s zero evidence to that.
Nah. You offer no observational or scientific evidence. Darwin did at the time.
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Putting the lives of the young and virile on hold so the old and sick can live.
People are still reproducing.
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I mean technically speaking the young and virile can certainly pass on their genes during all this, but the other half of that equation is giving their offspring the best shot at life they can...and that certainly ain't the case right now.
The young are the least affected right now. How are they not giving them the best shot at life? There’s zero evidence to that.
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Call me heartless but I'm just analyzing all of this through Darwin's eyes.
Nah. You offer no observational or scientific evidence. Darwin did at the time.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:07 pm to tgr4ever
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Odd. I thought republicans were against death panels. Isn’t that a form of evolution too?
I am against stupid arguments
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:10 pm to PrivatePublic
Great another Social Darwinist. Are you a Nazi too.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:35 pm to WaydownSouth
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Just Mother Earth trying to control overpopulation
Well that would only work if ot killed the young and breeding.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:00 pm to PrivatePublic
No. Evolutionary forces 'stop mattering' after reproductive ages. The fact that this virus is harder on elderly is insignificant in an evolutionary sense, as elderly people are long past reproductive age.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:12 pm to PrivatePublic
That’s an interesting observation.
If this happens 50 years ago it would’ve been noted as a very deadly flu season. If it actually made it over here.
Unless you believe this was a biologically manufactured virus that got lose. In that case we turned it lose on ourselves.
If this happens 50 years ago it would’ve been noted as a very deadly flu season. If it actually made it over here.
Unless you believe this was a biologically manufactured virus that got lose. In that case we turned it lose on ourselves.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:17 pm to SuperSaint
Evolution has been Satan’s tool to destroy the human race since the 19th century. Chickens are coming home to roost with da corona.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:27 pm to OweO
Oweo is close to a theory espoused by Yubal Noah Harari in his book Sapiens. He points out that the industrial revolution is only a couple hundred years old, not to mention the data revolution which is just a couple decades old. Evolutionary changes take thousands of years to spread through the population. The original Sapiens had to be the smartest, fastest, strongest, most disease-resistant to survived and pass on their genes: male and female. The industrial revolution has “saved the genes” of the slower, dumber, less hardy Sapiens and allowed them to reproduce offspring.
He didn’t state it as harshly as I did, but I’m making a point. Some would characterize this as an argument for eugenics; but I think it’s just a scientific observation on the pace of modern life leaving evolution in the dust. And the resulting state of modern life.
He didn’t state it as harshly as I did, but I’m making a point. Some would characterize this as an argument for eugenics; but I think it’s just a scientific observation on the pace of modern life leaving evolution in the dust. And the resulting state of modern life.
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