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re: School Resource Officer "Body Slams" Student Sitting in Desk
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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As a former school teacher, that was a simple classroom issue that never should have been escalated to the point of having an officer deal with it.
How long ago was it when you were teaching?
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:47 pm to Festus
quote:
As a former school teacher, that was a simple classroom issue that never should have been escalated to the point of having an officer deal with it.
How long ago was it when you were teaching?
15 years. I taught in an alternative school. "Last chance" kids.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:47 pm to Dr RC
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You have to pick and choose your battles
This is what it all boils down to. One poster didn't like the idea of leaving the disrespectful girl alone because she'd "win" that way. If a student in the classroom didn't even know what she was doing, was it truly so bad it had to end like it did?
Teacher should've spoken to her after the class, and if she insisted to be stubborn, then take it up with the principal to discuss suspending/expelling options if a talk with the foster parent didn't solve things.
Posters keep bringing up the other students and their "suffering", yet we've had some of those students speak out and say they weren't even aware of what she was doing. Doesn't sound like hooting-and-hollering and jumping on top of her desk. From what we know, it sounds like a stubborn little girl who didn't wanna put her phone away after asked repeatedly.
It's also telling how you can see many of the students put their heads down when the cop is involved, almost like they know something nasty is about to happening. And then you have accounts of this same juiced up cop pushing pregnant students and other complaints and you can see why.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:48 pm to GCTiger11
The student "won" IMO. She got exactly what she wanted.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
While things were starting to shift at that time, I would say that over the last 10 years, it's become a completely different world in schools. Teachers no longer have the authority to deal with escalations. Liberals and personal injury lawyers have stripped any authority from teachers or principals.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:51 pm to LouisianaLady
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Out of curiosity.. why? Why would a student either refusing to leave or being on their phone warrant criminal charges/law enforcement intervening?
Because that's likely protocol when the teacher asks a student to leave the classroom and they don't comply. Teachers are afraid to touch students in this day and age and for good reason. Just because the SRO is called doesn't mean they are contemplating criminal charges.
Did you go to public school?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:51 pm to fishfighter
quote:Is English your first language?
If I was the cop, I would of
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The student "won" IMO. She got exactly what she wanted.
Oh definitely. Now, she has half the country on her side outraged. I just saw this shite replayed 50 times on CNN. Not only did she probably lose respect for authority on her own for this, but she now has thousands of people all over backing her and reinforcing her disrespect for cops.
She is as good as lost.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:52 pm to LouisianaLady
Because of lawsuits. Schools don't want teachers involved with physical alterations with students and vice versa...the school district gets sued by both parties. That is why cops are in schools...wasn't needed when I was in school because for one kids generally had more respect for authority...2 parents didn't condone or teach that behavior and 3 a lawsuit wasn't the answer to every altercation...people are much more sue happy now.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:52 pm to UpToPar
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Did you go to public school?
Yep.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:52 pm to GCTiger11
Why not allow all the other students on their phone during class too? Why is this girl so special that it's OK for her? Why have rules at all? Give everyone and iPad with head phones. They will all be quiet and either be playing games or doing their assignment. Who care which it is?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The student "won" IMO. She got exactly what she wanted.
Agree 100% bc all these PC people.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:53 pm to Festus
I don't know man, I'm still active with the schools here and they aren't in bad shape. There is no resource officers, and teachers handle the classroom.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:54 pm to GCTiger11
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And her parents are dead, keep up.
I fully realize they are dead. I was speaking of the past, where it is painfully obvious that she never learned respect for authority, that others have rights, that she is not the boss while in school, that the rules about not having her phone out are to be followed, etc.
I am not on either of their sides because they are both wrong. She is not a princess, allowed to decide what rules she will follow and which she will ignore. And he does not get to kick anybody's arse because they are an a-hole.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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Schools don't want teachers involved with physical alterations
This isn't a physical altercation. The student was refusing to leave. She wasn't doing anything physical.
They said on the news that this cop has been at the school like 7 years. If calling a cop into the classroom when kids didn't listen was the "norm", this would not be the first time we see this man act this way.
He did not need to be called for a student refusing to leave the classroom. Period. She was not fighting or hurting anyone. She was just being a stubborn kid. If the teacher was so concerned about the other students' learning, he/she would have ignored the girl and found an adequate punishment later.. not create a spectacle during classtime.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:55 pm to LouisianaLady
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She was just being a stubborn kid.
Right. It doesn't take a cop to deal with stubborn kids.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:56 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Is English your first language?
No, I was one of those kids that disrupted the class till my Dad came and wiped my arse in front of the class.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'm speaking from a La. perspective only. And public schools. Trust me, teachers have been stripped of any and all authority when it comes to "escalating", or trying to "de-escalate" things. And when physical altercations take place, they will report it and stand and watch while one party usually gets the shite beat out of them. They won't step in. They can't. Although I think I would and just get fired.
But if Alaska is like you say, props to your state for doing it right.
But if Alaska is like you say, props to your state for doing it right.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:57 pm to Hangit
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She is not a princess, allowed to decide what rules she will follow and which she will ignore.
No one thinks this. Literally no one. But what else can you do? You can't touch her, you can't force her to leave.. but a school cop is not a disciplinarian. They're there for the safety of others. She was not threatening anyone's safety.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The student "won" IMO. She got exactly what she wanted
A. Suspended from school and no one knows who she is
B. National exposure and a lawsuit
Option A couldve happened. This cop's actions led to that victory. This girl would've been just one of millions of disrespectful teens in high schools all around the country if this cop didn't go overboard. So if you're mad at her winning, be mad at him.
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