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re: SAE at Oklahoma disbanded for racist video

Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:57 am to
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:57 am to
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Their words don't hurt, it's their behavior and their willingness to hold these beliefs in private


So you want to punish people for private thoughts?

Wow.


No I donf, but the reality is that thoughts like that manifest into behaviors and actions, that discriminate and bar people from fairness.

Have you not been watching the news ?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:57 am to
I think it's very important to note "how many rushed" vs "how many are accepted". I 100% agree that if you look at frat demographics without this info - It appears hugely skewed...but not racist.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85557 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:58 am to
We had a kid come through that was good friends with some actives. I met the kid and really liked him a lot. He got balled by a few dipshit actives from North Louisiana because he is half-Vietnamese.

I think that was the day I stopped going around the fraternity house as often. It was complete and utter bullshite. The ones who balled him admitted he was a cool kid and would fit in. They were worried about how it would look to the other chapters.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 8:59 am
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:58 am to
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CptBengal

Dude, did you even watch the fricking video? You know they did much more than just say the n-word, right?
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6404 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:59 am to
I have no problem with this following him around - it should follow him around.
But he can overcome it with actions since it was actions that got him into this mess.
Do a stint in Africa for the Peace Corps; or do sign up for Americorps or the like or a few years in the inner city.

Not that the government is stopping these guys from speaking, but talking about lynchings isn't protected speech anyway. And given that the taxpayers are paying for a large part of the education of these guys (perhaps all of it if they have a TOPS), yea, OU can do what it sees fit.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8774 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 8:59 am to
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So just because they're white then?



Pretty much. I personally couldn't imagine being the only black guy in an all white fraternity and I figure they wouldn't be too thrilled for me to be there either.

Not that it would even get close to that point.

I'm sure this may not be true for all in the south.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:01 am to
Certain fraternities are going to be accepting at LSU. Others aren't. And it's not totally because of the individuals being outright racists. It's about keeping up the exclusivity of it. You want to be the best organization with the most sought after pledges. You want that senator's son, or the kid from the prestigious high school. Letting in a minority makes it look like you are easy to get in to, etc.. It's still racist, but it's more classist than purely racist.

And it's not 100% like that at all. It really is a group of guys that get together who have likeminded interests, but there are those undertones.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:02 am to
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Clearly there is racial divide, but I think it is more of an unwritten rule.

I personally would have never thought to try and pledge at a white fraternity. Not because of anything they said or did though.

From what I've been told, its the alumni from a few of the frats that tell them not to let blacks in. That's why at LSU there will be black kids and other minorities that go through rush, but will never get bids from a certain few frats.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24440 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:09 am to
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The school



can shut down houses and have for much less

especially if the house is on campus or is owned by the school.




Hazing, underage drinking, rape allegations are much different.

When you're dealing with a public state university, speech codes are troublesome - to say the least. Private schools can get away with it easily.

Again, we don't have to worry about it here because SAE National office did the right thing.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 9:10 am
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56803 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:09 am to
I know the national chapter came out against what these guys did but it would be interesting to know how many black SAE's there are in the US.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:11 am to
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it would be interesting to know how many black SAE's there are in the US.



According to the song, there's none with no plans of accepting any.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:11 am to
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it would be interesting to know how many black SAE's there are in the US.


Surely somebody here can get that info. The OT has people EVERYWHERE.
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:12 am to
I was greek at LSU. You wanna talk about straight up racism. KA dropped all social functions with Tri Del in 2009 because they accepted a black girl(she was the only black girl in a sorority at that time). The girl was really cool and carried a 4.0 until she graduated. I believe she was an actually african american aka not raised in US and A.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:12 am to
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This is common in most fraternities, just not recorded and put on the interwebs.



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I was in a big fraternity at Ole Miss and nothing like this would have ever happened. Friends with SAEs and other fraternities at Ole Miss as well and they wouldn't do this.

Its not clever, funny, or anything. This is something redneck high school kids would say. Its quite embarrassing.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:13 am to
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Posted by KG6 quote: quote:Can confirm that almost every fraternity actively blocks black kids from pledging. maybe in the south I went through 3 years of rush, and I can probably count on one hand the number of black guys that came through. There's obviously a racial divide, but it's not like we would escort them out of the house, because they had no shot. I will admit, I couldn't see them ever getting a bid, because there are going to be several people against it and that's all it takes. But that doesn't mean that there was this outward "everyone hates minorities" feeling when you walked into our house.


I don't know what this means but it isn't reassuring
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:13 am to
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an actually african american aka not raised in US and A.


So she was African.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:13 am to
I'm so sick of race discussions.

I made it through about 5 pages.
Same old shite.
Blah blah blah blah

The double standard of what's Acceptable and what's not based on the color of your skin is what bothers me the most.
That's the reason things aren't and won't get any better between whites and blacks in America.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87290 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:16 am to
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That's the reason things aren't and won't get any better between whites and blacks in America.



Well kids doing this shite because they think it makes them more Southern or more Texan or more whatever-the-frick-people-celebrate-in-Oklahoma-an surely doesn't help. Sad part is it's unlikely these kids even really believe what they were saying. In my personal experience, this stuff was a rebellion against the other 90% of college kids in the US who are liberal bedwetters, not the product of of some true white supremacy or hatred of all black people.
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:17 am to
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The double standard of what's Acceptable and what's not based on the color of your skin is what bothers me the most.


This.

I feel like a lot of people are kinda over the whole conversation but it's the old tymers on both sides of the aisle who are holding on.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:21 am to
It's probably a handful of people that really think that way on the bus. The rest are just sheeple doing what sheeple do to fit in.

Embarrassing and stupid.
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