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re: Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because gorilla never became human
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:41 pm to OweO
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:41 pm to OweO
Im just clicking on this thread.....
first off, years ago I used to listen to Rush on occasion and i really don't see him believing this, but you never know, dude is obviously just a shock jock. Maybe he is trying to create a buzz......
2ndly, I don't get how smart people could throw asinine shite around like this. It happens way too often. Dr Ben Carson is a good example of someone extremely smart with some WTF moments with him
Ok and now to this thread. Me knowing the OT, the reason this thread is 14 pages is because someone is on here denying evolution.... ammiright?
first off, years ago I used to listen to Rush on occasion and i really don't see him believing this, but you never know, dude is obviously just a shock jock. Maybe he is trying to create a buzz......
2ndly, I don't get how smart people could throw asinine shite around like this. It happens way too often. Dr Ben Carson is a good example of someone extremely smart with some WTF moments with him
Ok and now to this thread. Me knowing the OT, the reason this thread is 14 pages is because someone is on here denying evolution.... ammiright?
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:44 pm to SuperSaint
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Ok and now to this thread. Me knowing the OT, the reason this thread is 14 pages is because someone is on here denying evolution.... ammiright?
I've said my piece. I'm off to watch the new Peaky Blinders season.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:47 pm to Clockwatcher68
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Darwin, their god, admitted that there were huge gaps in the fossil record. There is not just one missing link, there should be thousands of links that have yet to be observed. Why? "Meh, the fossil record is incomplete. It's faulty." Okay. It's a decent theory, but calling doubters idiots does not prove the theory. Sorry.
You do know that fossilization has to be brought about by a bizarre series of coincidences, right? It's not as if a dinosaur that falls flat on his face in the woods is fossilized. I'm talking about Pompeii level of shite. Massive heat and pressure is required to create a fossil. Only one out of hundreds of billions of potential specimens are fossilized. They aren't all over the place for a reason, in that it takes a cataclysmic event to create them on average.
The fact that you demand that I bring every single generation of every animal that has ever lived to the table is just bullshite and stupid. I think our species is intelligent enough to see a recurring pattern that has yet to be foiled. Short of a time machine, what you're asking for as evidence is impossible to produce. It's like saying we can't prove that there are other planets in the universe just because we can't physically see them, but we can see how it affects the light of the stars they revolve around. So you say I have to go there to take a physical picture of the planet. It's a bottom feeder's and simpleton's argument.
And by the way, that guy you were responding to was trolling you, you moron.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:55 pm to OMLandshark
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And who the hell told you that redshift was fake? A snake oil salesman of a Baptist preacher? I googled this and have found no one debating whether it is bullshite. Even if we're off by a few million years, it's not enough to question the Big Bang and the major distance of other galaxies from us
I just saw this
Like we haven't figured out how to measure light and determine distance yet You can literally do this on your own and prove it to yourself
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:07 pm to slackster
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Slackster
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Stanford fan
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I'm not questioning evolution, but...
Does not compute that a Stanford graduate is questioning a fundamental theory of biology. I could easily write 100 pages on this topic and why you are dumb
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:44 pm to Upperdecker
Typical evangelical hick:
"I don't believe in evolution because you can't SEE it happening. You can't prove it!"
PROVE to me god exists
You reject science, but instead trust EVERYTHING a book from 8,000 years ago (for old testament) and 2,000 years ago (for new testament) says because the BOOK ITSELF TELLS YOU TO BELIEVE IT!
The Bible = BELIEVE IT BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU YOU NEED TO BELIEVE IT!
JUST ABSOLUTELY LOL
"I don't believe in evolution because you can't SEE it happening. You can't prove it!"
PROVE to me god exists
You reject science, but instead trust EVERYTHING a book from 8,000 years ago (for old testament) and 2,000 years ago (for new testament) says because the BOOK ITSELF TELLS YOU TO BELIEVE IT!
The Bible = BELIEVE IT BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU YOU NEED TO BELIEVE IT!
JUST ABSOLUTELY LOL
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:56 pm to Clockwatcher68
nm
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:17 pm to OweO
From one absurdity to another. Evolutions absurd claims>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Bible.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:20 pm to Delacroix22
God is faith based. Evolution is claiming to be fact. Both beliefs begin with an assumption about how we got here. The religious cite God and the secular,science.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:40 pm to Clockwatcher68
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Darwin, their god, admitted that there were huge gaps in the fossil record. There is not just one missing link, there should be thousands of links that have yet to be observed. Why? "Meh, the fossil record is incomplete. It's faulty." Okay. It's a decent theory, but calling doubters idiots does not prove the theory. Sorry.
Missing link
frick these people are clueless.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:43 pm to Delacroix22
Why don't you apply the same standard of evidence and proof to both? That's where I lose evolutionists.
I have issues with God as well, but if you look at evolution objectively, it has holes in it.
One of the reasons I believe in a creator, from a scientific standpoint, is liquid water. Its origins are very sketchy.
DNA/MRNA is another. I don't see any way this complex system evolved. First, one had to predate the other. But, I don't see how this is remotely possible given their function.
I have issues with God as well, but if you look at evolution objectively, it has holes in it.
One of the reasons I believe in a creator, from a scientific standpoint, is liquid water. Its origins are very sketchy.
DNA/MRNA is another. I don't see any way this complex system evolved. First, one had to predate the other. But, I don't see how this is remotely possible given their function.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:43 pm to TJGator1215
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God is faith based. Evolution is claiming to be fact. Both beliefs begin with an assumption about how we got here. The religious cite God and the secular,science.
wow what a fricking revelation, thanks for enlightening us with this monumental theory
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:08 pm to Fun Bunch
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frick these people are clueless.
What's amazing to me is that because science operates on the assumption that its understanding is incomplete they think that this is a detraction. Just because science doesn't explain everything does not mean that it is not good at explaining anything.
I don't like to get into religion bashing, but the only explanation that I can think of for where this type of thinking comes from is that when you are taught to accept a philosophy that only deals in absolutes and omniscience then you can't understand another philosophy that doesn't just deal with handwaving to justify its position.
Like I said I don't want to bash on religion. There have been some legitimately very intelligent, theological philosophers. There have also been a lot of charlatans, and the charlatans have been immensely popular because they thrive on telling people what they want to hear.
Of course views and the understanding of science is going to change with time. That's the beauty of it. It grows as more is added to it. It justifies itself and is not afraid of corrections. To the contrary, it thrives on corrections and learning from its mistakes. That doesn't mean the best we understand now is l useless. It's just incomplete. If you want to nit pick that then nothing is ever 100%. Unless you are a religious fanatic.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:10 pm to tuptiger
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Why don't you apply the same standard of evidence and proof to both? That's where I lose evolutionists.
What proof do you have of a global flood wiping out every life form that wasn't on a big boat? I can think of 200 on the top of my head against it.
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One of the reasons I believe in a creator, from a scientific standpoint, is liquid water. Its origins are very sketchy.
Why? This is total bullshite that can only come of total ignorance of the cosmos at large. Water is very abundant throughout the universe. See these rings:
That is made almost entirely of water. If you put it in the right temperature and atmospheric pressure, then it will turn liquid. Europa's entire surface is composed of it, and there is liquid water beneath the ice. Liquid water has been confirmed on Mars as well. Why does it need an act of God to do this?
I'm guessing this is what your snake oil salesman of a preacher taught you, since liquid water is certainly abundant within the universe. 3 planetoids have confirmed liquid water on the surface in our solar system alone. Three. What does that mean for the rest of the universe? It means its highly, highly abundant. We know for a fact Mars had tons of liquid water roaming the surface at one point due to creek beds.
This dumbest argument I've ever heard as definitive proof when it's totally abundant in our own backyard. It's like some guy thinking that grass only grows in his backyard, despite the fact that a few neighbors around him also have grass. You continue to prove you're a total idiot.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:16 pm to tuptiger
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but if you look at evolution objectively, it has holes in it.
The "holes" in evolution are on the level of intricate, specific details involving specific speciation events and which branch goes where on the evolutionary tree. The reality of evolution, the mechanisms by which it occurs, are the most fundamental and well researched ideas in all of biology. They are not in question.
The holes in the concept of the judeo-christian God involve paradoxes relating to fundamental aspects of human existence. They are holes which violate what we know about the universe and our own existence on such a fundamental level so as to be incompatible with the world we see around us.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:21 pm to tuptiger
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DNA/MRNA is another. I don't see any way this complex system evolved. First, one had to predate the other. But, I don't see how this is remotely possible given their function.
The transition from an RNA world to DNA is fairly well understood.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The transition from an RNA world to DNA is fairly well understood.
Don't get too harsh with him, since clearly Earth is the only place with liquid water: LINK
What a dipshit.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:28 pm to lsuwontonwrap
My only question about evolution is why and when did it stop? Does it occur over such a long period of time that no one has ever witnessed it? And if it has stopped, why? Did the universe just nod her head in satisfaction and say "yep...I'm done."?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:28 pm to OMLandshark
LIQUID WATER
LIQUID WATER
IS THAT LIQUID WATER AROUND SATURN?
LIQUID WATER
IS THAT LIQUID WATER AROUND SATURN?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:29 pm to Roger Klarvin
Why don't you explain it to me then?
It's an RNA world "theory".
It's an RNA world "theory".
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