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re: Rush Limbaugh thinks evolution is a hoax because gorilla never became human

Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Bmath
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:10 pm to
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Pics? We also share key gene sequences with frogs.


You can go ahead and pick apart what I said, but I'm trying to keep it on a grade school level for the Luddites.

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Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:10 pm to
How "should" evolution work? WTF kind of question is that? I understand evolution. Over billions of years, and innumerable climatic changes, natural selection ultimately led to where we are today. However, this has never been witnessed on a macroscale level.

You'll reply with a microscopic example. Once again obfuscating the point. It's not demonstrable, on a macroscopic level, which was the original argument. The theory of evolution entails the macroscopic as well as the microscopic.

The example of the peppered moth is microscopic evolution.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:12 pm to
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Luddites


Not technically accurate. Luddites are anti technology, these good folks are anti science. Not sure there's a name for that but it ain't "Luddite".
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:12 pm to
Humans didn't come from birds.

Reptiles diverged into Reptiles, Early mammals (marsupials), and birds.

We share a common ancestor with birds but we did not evolve from them.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:14 pm to
Education and the printing press not evolution is the reason why we've gotten so much better in creating things. Advancements in medicine and food have been largely been the reason why we've improved. Look at girls now who've been expose to more hormones, they grow up faster. The parts were always there We have the ability to adapt to our environment. Evolution causing taller people and new technology :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by Ellssu
Spying North of the Border
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:15 pm to
The number of Kent Hovine's in this thread is amazing.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:17 pm to
When I say "came from" I mean the lineage. Should have been more specific. I agree humans didn't evolve from birds.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:17 pm to
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Frankly, Evolutionist have a lot more to answer for than Rush. Evolutions is based on pure "I see what I want to see" BS. Of course, we are really talking about mAcroevolution. MIcroevolution is just small changes within a population caused by mutation or some other BS. However, this shite they are saying is new, is already programed into the cell. We have information in us that allows us to adapt to our environments. That's just good design. Microevolution isn't new information and it certainly doesn't prove macroevolution.



Microevolution proves Macroevolution simply from understanding the English language. I'll forgive you if English is your second language.

And a good design would never have a playground next to a sewage treatment plant.

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The real problem with evolution is the Big Bang. Scientist know the Big Bang is BS so they keep trying to reinvent it while still calling it the Big Bang. Frankly, it's fun to watch and listen to such folks. On top of that, I think red shift is BS for determining distances to stars.



Evolution has absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with the Big Bang. Even if the Big Bang never happened and the universe has a different origin, evolution could happened independently from it.

And who the hell told you that redshift was fake? A snake oil salesman of a Baptist preacher? I googled this and have found no one debating whether it is bullshite. Even if we're off by a few million years, it's not enough to question the Big Bang and the major distance of other galaxies from us.

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100 years from now, all the BS that most of you called "settled science" will be proven to be what it is. Evolution, the idea that we came from a pool of slime, will be one of the first to go.



Yeah, because when the Singularity hits, the first thing it's going to tell us that the logical conclusion is Noah, a man from the Bronze Age, had 5 million species on a massive boat escaping a flood. You're an idiot.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:19 pm to
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Evolution is a hoax because it isn't real. If evolution were real there'd be a lot of animals and humans walking around without symmetrical body parts. There would also be monkey heads with human bodies or human heads with monkey bodies and so on. Why did "evolution" lead to animals and humans having even length arms and legs? Seems there would be an large number of "imperfect" beings.


Sometimes I think I read this site/board because it's like the Jerry Springer Show. The audience watches because it makes them feel better about themselves. Either you are the dumbest hick to ever walk the Earth, trolling, or joking and I can't quite put my finger on it. There are some pretty intelligent, eloquent posters here but there's enough idiocy to make me fear for humanity...
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:20 pm to
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However, this has never been witnessed on a macroscale level.






Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:22 pm to
Every species carries traces of non-expressed DNA genes from their ancestors.

We share DNA with apes, reptiles, fish. Hell, our mitochondria evolved from bacteria and has its own separate DNA.

If macro evolution did not happen then why do we have the DNA to make tails? How do you explain atavism if not for evolution?

Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:23 pm to
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Not technically accurate. Luddites are anti technology, these good folks are anti science. Not sure there's a name for that but it ain't "Luddit


I chose Luddite because we live in the Information Age, and yet these people refuse to actually use Google Scholar, Web of Science, Ebsco, or any other modern means of researching the topic.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:23 pm to
So, you think that diagram has been observed? Do you think the succession of apes to human graphic has been witnessed or obeserved? Are you retarded?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20701 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:24 pm to
Has anyone found a DNA connection yet? If so this thread is useless. If not I'd have no more reason to think I came from a goorilla than from a butterfly.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:24 pm to
That is a very well thought out and articulate response. How many minds do you think it changed?

I always wonder why you guys waste so much thought on these things. Why not just have fun with it and draw it out to an absurd conclusion? I used to try and do that but apparently, if repeated, is bannable.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:25 pm to
So direct observation is the only way to know something is true?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:26 pm to
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Has anyone found a DNA connection yet?


Yes.
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If so this thread is useless


This thread is useless regardless.
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If not I'd have no more reason to think I came from a goorilla than from a butterfly.


Never change red, never change.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:28 pm to
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Do you think the succession of apes to human graphic has been witnessed or obeserved? Are you retarded?


That graphic you are referring to is misleading. The one where the ape "learns" to walk upright and at the end you have man.

Macroscale evolution is represented well in the rock record. That evidence for whale evolution and horse evolution is good. Macroevolution is the combination of lots of microevolution and even more time.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:29 pm to
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The pepper moth didn't become a bee. It was still a moth. Just like the flu virus. It didn't become a bacterial infection. It's still a virus.



Why would a moth become a bee? Bees have very different social structures, they're violent and vicious as shite, and they live in hives that can have hundreds of thousands of them. The bees evolutionary path has been totally different than that of the moth. They have as much in common with bees as we do with sharks. Why don't we turn into sharks overnight?

You people are so fricking stupid.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 7:32 pm to
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I always wonder why you guys waste so much thought on these things. Why not just have fun with it and draw it out to an absurd conclusion?


It's already an absurd conclusion. I am having fun with it. I like debating these assclowns. Beejon's demon fighting threads were among the best this site has ever had.
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