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re: Right To Work Laws
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:48 pm to Rusty Scroggins
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:48 pm to Rusty Scroggins
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The ability of a worker to disseminate information to their lawmakers or even the general populace instantly still nullifies the general goal of unions, preventing worker exploitation.
A miner calls CNN from the mine "X company is withholding paychecks unless we work 12 hour days 7 days a week." X company is instantly scewered in front of millions of peoples eyes on TV.
Obviously that's a very general example, but it hits the general point.
And dont forget OSHA.
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:49 pm to greygoose
quote:That proves he is ignorant.
don't work a union job
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:50 pm to Jp1LSU
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They can fire you for any reason at any time.
As they should. They shouldn't be forced to drag the deadweight along because they are in a union.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:50 pm to weadjust
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UPS is the single largest employer in the Teamsters Union. The Division serves more than 250,000 members throughout the United States who work at UPS and UPS Freight.
In my area, UPS is heads and shoulders above FedEx. Same UPS driver delivers next day air and ground packages. Never an issue. FedEx on the other hand, has stated the reason the package wasn't delivered was because the business wasn't open, when it was, Mis-delivers packages,
Tracks mud into the store, and is commonly waiting to deliver right at closing time. Do you attribute the superiority of the UPS service over FedEx to one being a union member and the other is not?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:56 pm to greygoose
They are still driven indirectly by the threat of unionized work force.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:58 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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Dumbest thing I have ever heard. The union did not precede the job.
yep.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:00 pm to AUCE05
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They are still driven indirectly by the threat of unionized work force.
I don't get that logic. If UAW suddenly ceased to exist tomorrow, you are saying Mercedes would cut wages, reduce benefits, and have a less employee-friendly work environment?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:00 pm to weadjust
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UPS is the single largest employer in the Teamsters Union. The Division serves more than 250,000 members throughout the United States who work at UPS and UPS Freight.
UPS tried to make me join the union as a part time employee while in college. I declined but quit after 2 days because it sucked so bad anyway
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:02 pm to greygoose
I used to tend bar near a UPS hub. Lots of UPS drivers stopped by after work. The biggest thing with the Union and the UPS driver's seemed to be which driver got which route.
I think a rural route with lots of driving and fewer packages was preferred over a downtown route with not much driving and shite load of packages.
I think a rural route with lots of driving and fewer packages was preferred over a downtown route with not much driving and shite load of packages.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:04 pm to greygoose
In your hypothetical, is your position that unions serve no purpose? I need to know where you stand.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:10 pm to AUCE05
They serve a purpose, but that purpose is a net negative.
There was a time when unionized workforce was required. That time has long since passed.
There was a time when unionized workforce was required. That time has long since passed.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:12 pm to AUCE05
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In your hypothetical, is your position that unions serve no purpose? I need to know where you stand.
I think they had a place and time back before there were State and Federal employment laws, but now they are just a way to fleece their members. The most common response I get from a union member is that the union is good because they protect their members. Protect them from what? Being able to fire a jackass that's not doing their job?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:14 pm to AUCE05
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is your position that unions serve no purpose? I need to know where you stand.
United Mine Workers of America endorsed Obama AFTER he said he planned on putting coal out of business. Let that sink in...
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:06 pm to greygoose
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One of the things they keep saying is, "if you don't want to join a union, don't work a union job".
I agree with them. Everyone should be able to find a non union job if they so choose. So I support right to work laws.
It's only ever a really a union job if the law or employer requires it to be a union job. Otherwise it's just a job.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:12 pm to greygoose
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"if you don't want to join a union, don't work a union job"
This fool apparently thinks that the union somehow creates jobs. Hard to argue with an idiot like that.
Employers create jobs; unions mooch off that and seek to redistribute wealth to workers and the union's own coffers which, when taken too far, simply ends up redistributing wealth and jobs to other countries.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:13 pm to greygoose
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Right To Work laws should be repealed
That's just... stupid.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:22 pm to greygoose
I am currently working in NWI at one of the many steel mills. I am not union and only set up systems then train union baws to operate and maintain them.
Their are no union baws in any of these mills that will get out of the union. Right to work must be for new hires. These mills have not hired in a decade. Management jobs but no union hires.
Their are no union baws in any of these mills that will get out of the union. Right to work must be for new hires. These mills have not hired in a decade. Management jobs but no union hires.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:31 pm to greygoose
My main issue with Unions is they tend to protect the bottom of the workforce that are either actually bad at their job or are purposely lazy knowing the union will protect their job regardless of performance.
I really don't see what positive impact they have on a guy that goes to work and does his job to the best of his abilities. In today's day and age, if a company tried to mistreat it's employees, then they would lose their best workers to the competition. People aren't stuck working for the one factory that is located in their town anymore.
Quick story: My FIL worked as a mechanical engineer at a few different places. The first place he worked had union workers. He said that there was a guy he would work with on overnight shifts that would fall asleep in his chair for most of the shift every night and the company couldn't fire him cuz the rules stated that he wasn't at fault for accidentally falling asleep on the job. As long as he didn't make a bed, he was good to go. Someone please tell me how protecting that POS's job is necessary?
I really don't see what positive impact they have on a guy that goes to work and does his job to the best of his abilities. In today's day and age, if a company tried to mistreat it's employees, then they would lose their best workers to the competition. People aren't stuck working for the one factory that is located in their town anymore.
Quick story: My FIL worked as a mechanical engineer at a few different places. The first place he worked had union workers. He said that there was a guy he would work with on overnight shifts that would fall asleep in his chair for most of the shift every night and the company couldn't fire him cuz the rules stated that he wasn't at fault for accidentally falling asleep on the job. As long as he didn't make a bed, he was good to go. Someone please tell me how protecting that POS's job is necessary?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:33 pm to greygoose
I in no way said they were perfect. Actually said the truth was somewhere in the middle.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:36 pm to greygoose
There was a time in this country where unions were needed.
This is no longer the case.
There are more jobs for skilled and unskilled labor than there are QUALIFIED applicants.
And companies expect performance and results.
Such a novel idea.
This is no longer the case.
There are more jobs for skilled and unskilled labor than there are QUALIFIED applicants.
And companies expect performance and results.
Such a novel idea.
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