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re: Return to office / employees quitting
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:11 pm to concrete_tiger
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:11 pm to concrete_tiger
Been working from home full-time since 2010 for the same company. It'll be interesting to read a thread like this in 5-6 years.
Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely zero desire to go back into the office but it does begin to wear on you after a while....hit like a 6 month skid where you've just got zero motivation, maybe start to get out of your routines, perhaps put on a few pounds as you spend so much time at home. Fortunately, I've always slipped out of those lulls but, when they hit, they fricking suck. Going into the office, if nothing else, gives each workday purpose to get dressed, leave the house, socialize, etc. You really have to pay attention to yourself or you can slip into becoming a hermit every weekday before you know it.
Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely zero desire to go back into the office but it does begin to wear on you after a while....hit like a 6 month skid where you've just got zero motivation, maybe start to get out of your routines, perhaps put on a few pounds as you spend so much time at home. Fortunately, I've always slipped out of those lulls but, when they hit, they fricking suck. Going into the office, if nothing else, gives each workday purpose to get dressed, leave the house, socialize, etc. You really have to pay attention to yourself or you can slip into becoming a hermit every weekday before you know it.
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:15 pm to tigerinthebueche
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isnt this the third or fourth thread you've started on this?
You seem to be keeping track, you tell me?
This is a "forum," where people share info. Skip the thread, it's really simple to do.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:16 pm to mmmmmbeeer
I just keep a very active social life, which does get exhausting at times, but I prefer it to the alternative.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:19 pm to BigCheese2001x
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Did they move your desk at Initech?
Initech
I don't even have a stapler!
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:25 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Going into the office, if nothing else, gives each workday purpose to get dressed, leave the house, socialize, etc. You really have to pay attention to yourself or you can slip into becoming a hermit every weekday before you know it.
Not to sound like a broken record, but i think it’s real important to realize that not everyone is this way… ive been remote for 15 yrs, and feel way more motivated from home than i ever did in an office or cubicle with fluorescent lighting , water cooler BS and office politics… i bet there are just as many people like me, as there are people like you who go into a 6 month rut at home, gain weight and need ‘going into the office ‘ in order to motivate them .
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:30 pm to BK Lounge
There are some folks who have lives who revolve around their work and wouldn’t know what to do if they didn’t have to go into an office. I have no idea how someone could be like that, but they also probably don’t understand how I can work from home for 10+ years.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:30 pm to Fat and Happy
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Fat and Happy
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Lots of people saved tons of money not driving or eating out during the day.
People are gonna usually choose the extra sleep prior to work, being home at the end of work, and just not dealing with traffic
Name checks out.
Personally I couldnt work from home daily. But also dont have a good set up at home to do that. I basically woul dhave to make an office in my bedroom.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:31 pm to BK Lounge
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Not to sound like a broken record, but i think it’s real important to realize that not everyone is this way… ive been remote for 15 yrs, and feel way more motivated from home than i ever did in an office or cubicle with fluorescent lighting , water cooler BS and office politics… i bet there are just as many people like me, as there are people like you who go into a 6 month rut at home, gain weight and need ‘going into the office ‘ in order to motivate them .
Yeah. I also don't get the people that feel like they need to be in the office in order to have some sort of social life. Yikes. I don't consider too many of the people that I work with to be my friends, and I certainly don't consider them to be my family. It's just a job.
Working from home allows me to socialize at the gym, have lunch with my wife, meet friends for lunch or evening drinks, etc.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:36 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Yeah. I also don't get the people that feel like they need to be in the office in order to have some sort of social life. Yikes. I don't consider too many of the people that I work with to be my friends, and I certainly don't consider them to be my family. It's just a job.
Already saying some places are experiencing high turnover rate due to the non social aspect.
Lets say you go work for a new employer and you never meet a single one of your co workers. People are more willing to just jump from company to company because they have zero connection with anyone at the company.
Again, its not for everybody or every situation.
We didnt have all office work before covid, we wont have all work from home after. And shouldnt.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:37 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
20 minutes.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:39 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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and very low absenteeism while working remotely,
In 2 years I rarely had anyone on my staff call in sick, but since we have had a mandated 3 days in office (for now) I've had numerous and more on par with what I saw before the pandemic. Let's not pretend folks didn't layout while working from home and saved sick time. Am I to believe nobody got sick in 2 years of a pandemic
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:41 pm to Bruco
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When we first went remote it was assumed the older workers might struggle but the opposite happened.
I've been posting since Covid first happened this will kill the new hires. Everywhere I know is having massive issues of new hires out of college or starting a new career having massive issues.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:46 pm to Jcorye1
What kind of massive issues?
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:49 pm to Jcorye1
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I've been posting since Covid first happened this will kill the new hires. Everywhere I know is having massive issues of new hires out of college or starting a new career having massive issues.
What does this mean ? What kind of ‘massive’ issues ? New hires out of college arent as adaptable to WFH as older workers are ?? I mean i would imagine new kids out of college are way more tech savvy, and have social circles from places other than work- Ike school, kickball league, jsut going out to bars more etcetera .
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:50 pm to Fat and Happy
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Lots of people saved tons of money not driving or eating out during the day.
People are gonna usually choose the extra sleep prior to work, being home at the end of work, and just not dealing with traffic
Yup, yup....pandora's box has now been opened due to COVID!
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:51 pm to Mo Jeaux
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What kind of massive issues?
I would think that they are being deprived of some of the essential learnings that mid and upper levels have previously learned and take for granted. Look at how many children struggled with remote classrooms.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 4:52 pm to Mo Jeaux
In my experience they just don't tend to ask questions as much via Teams vs when someone is sitting next to them. I guess because they feel like they are bothering you.
It's really been no big deal for those us who have been with the company a long time though. I can do 99.5% of my job remotely.
It's really been no big deal for those us who have been with the company a long time though. I can do 99.5% of my job remotely.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 5:05 pm to Tortious
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In 2 years I rarely had anyone on my staff call in sick, but since we have had a mandated 3 days in office (for now) I've had numerous and more on par with what I saw before the pandemic. Let's not pretend folks didn't layout while working from home and saved sick time. Am I to believe nobody got sick in 2 years of a pandemic
That’s another bonus of working from home, I got Covid and didn’t take a single day off of work. I never felt so bad that I couldn’t work, but if I had to work from an office, I would’ve had to take 2 weeks off.
ETA: same with weather days, or whatever. I can pretty much work every day that I’m supposed to, with little to no reasons for interruption (the only reason really being planned vacation).
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 5:05 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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hit like a 6 month skid where you've just got zero motivation, maybe start to get out of your routines, perhaps put on a few pounds as you spend so much time at home. Fortunately, I've always slipped out of those lulls but, when they hit, they fricking suck. Going into the office, if nothing else, gives each workday purpose to get dressed, leave the house, socialize, etc. You really have to pay attention to yourself or you can slip into becoming a hermit every weekday before you know it.
Yeah I can see that. I'm a very introverted dude so working in solitude is awesome for me. But you're right, you have to stick to routines and get out. I am in a sales oriented role, so I have to go to customer sites once or twice a week usually, which helps break monotony. I also go to a crossfit class at lunch 4 days a week, which gives me the little bit of social life I really need lol
Posted on 5/4/22 at 5:27 pm to BK Lounge
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What does this mean ? What kind of ‘massive’ issues ? New hires out of college arent as adaptable to WFH as older workers are ?? I mean i would imagine new kids out of college are way more tech savvy, and have social circles from places other than work- Ike school, kickball league, jsut going out to bars more etcetera .
You can’t overhear your manager or their boss making critical decisions (and then ask questions about their thought process later on) if you aren’t invited to the zoom call. Younger people learn a lot just from being around their work role models.
This lack of learning experience starts to show when that analyst becomes an associate, and then really becomes a problem when they try to bump up higher in the ladder. How are they supposed to know how to handle those conversations if they haven’t been exposed to those issues. That exposure used to happen much more organically in an office setting.
It’s not an impossible problem to solve, but managers have to be very mindful of including younger employees in discussions above their pay grade, even just as observers.
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