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re: Return to office / employees quitting
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:15 pm to BK Lounge
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:15 pm to BK Lounge
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You’re lucky you like the people you work with, and maybe you dont have a bad commute .. the rest of us have different priorities- we dont like sitting in traffic for a couple hours a day and dealing with obnoxious coworkers who talk our heads off about pointless shite and then stink up the company bathroom…. But you do you .
You took the job. Stop using a grossly over-exaggerated "pandemic" as an excuse to change the agreed upon conditions of your employment. Stop using COVID as an excuse to do whatever you want. When you were hired you were expected to actually go to work. So quit complaining and do the job you were hired to do the way you were hired to do it
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:17 pm to MRTigerFan
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You took the job. Stop using a grossly over-exaggerated "pandemic" as an excuse to change the agreed upon conditions of your employment. Stop using COVID as an excuse to do whatever you want. When you were hired you were expected to actually go to work. So quit complaining and do the job you were hired to do the way you were hired to do it
You're not for real, are you, paw-paw?
I love how you equate "going to the office" with actually working. I probably do more actual work in a six-month period than you do in a year.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:18 pm to MRTigerFan
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When you were hired you were expected to actually go to work
Are you saying I'm not working when I'm working from home?
I'd like for you to expound on that great-grandpa.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:21 pm to concrete_tiger
I’m guessing similar things have been said as nauseam over the last 9 pages, but my office has a policy of “the office is open, come in if you want or if you absolutely have to for a specific purpose, otherwise we don’t care where you’re working as long as you’re working.”
If they ever change that policy back to mandatory office hours I’ll be looking elsewhere.
If they ever change that policy back to mandatory office hours I’ll be looking elsewhere.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:21 pm to Centinel
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I'd like for you to expound on that great-grandpa.
Well it's simple. Not really much to expound on. If your employer expects you to show up at the office then you show up at the office. Stop whining on the internet about how it's not fair and do your job the way your boss expects you to do it.
Eta: young whippersnapper
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:25 pm to MRTigerFan
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If your employer expects you to show up at the office then you show up at the office.
I agree. Or you look for other work.
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Stop whining on the internet about how it's not fair and do your job the way your boss expects you to do it.
I don’t think moving on to another job that better suits your work/life balance is “whining.”
Employers are likely to see gross drop offs in retention rates and a lower quality candidate pool for new hires when they require people to be in the office for jobs that don’t require it. And that’s their choice to make.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:27 pm to pelicansfan123
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I agree with this, but I don't necessarily think it's a horrible thing? Employers will drop employees at the drop of a hat, it's only natural for employees to look out for themselves and what best fits their individual circumstances.
Let's run a poll to see how many on this thread want their entire professional and personal life monitored.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:27 pm to MRTigerFan
I'm late to this party.
My company has no office. We are a completely remote software company.
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If your employer expects you to show up at the office then you show up at the office.
My company has no office. We are a completely remote software company.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:27 pm to MRTigerFan
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If your employer expects you to show up at the office then you show up at the office.
There are many jobs where this is completely pointless. I can do my job from anywhere in the world with an internet connection.
It's pretty simple to call out outdated business practices for jobs and companies where being in an office is absolutely pointless.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:28 pm to MRTigerFan
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No, I think the whole "pandemic" and subsequent protocols are ridiculous. I actually like my job and work with good people and can't imagine quitting because my employer....... Actually wants me to come to work. You sound like a big ole bleeding vagina
Eta: I bet you double mask
I get that the fries aren’t going to fry themselves at BK, and I’m glad that you enjoy your shift manager, but some of us don’t have to go into an office to perform our jobs. Going into the office just for the sake of having an arse in a seat is ridiculous.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:30 pm to Epic Cajun
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but some of us don’t have to go into an office to perform our jobs
shite, once StarLink is fully operational, I'll be doing my job from a several hundred acre remote mountain property miles from my nearest neighbor.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:33 pm to Epic Cajun
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the fries aren’t going to fry themselves at BK, and I’m glad that you enjoy your shift manager, but some of us don’t have to go into an office to perform our jobs
Lol ok. Apparently now I am a manager at Burger King because I don't agree with you. Another ridiculous point of view.
If showing up to work isn't important then why does your employer want you to show up? If you are honestly performing so much better working from home then any decent employer wouldn't have a problem with you continueing to work from home. If they expect you to show up at work, then maybe you need to show up at work. That's all I'm saying
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:35 pm to MRTigerFan
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If showing up to work isn't important then why does your employer want you to show up? If you are honestly performing so much better working from home then any decent employer wouldn't have a problem with you continueing to work from home. If they expect you to show up at work, then maybe you need to show up at work. That's all I'm saying
You're making an assumption that all C-suites or VPs or directors etc. are all totally rational actors. That is not always the case.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:36 pm to Centinel
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I know MOST people have 2 monitors, some nerds like me have 3 shite, I'm rocking a four screen hydra setup.
Two computers with 8 screens for me
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:37 pm to MRTigerFan
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If they expect you to show up at work, then maybe you need to show up at work.
You're ignoring two points:
1. You have executives stuck in the "butts in seats is the only way one can manage productivity." Which is fricking stupid, and a clear indication that exec needs to retire.
2. You have executives/management that are unable to actually manage their people without micromanaging them in person on a daily basis. Another clear indication that manager needs to retire or be shite-canned for being unable to adapt to new work paradigms.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:37 pm to Hulkklogan
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You're making an assumption that all C-suites or VPs or directors etc. are all totally rational actors. That is not always the case.
A lot of people are making the assumption that this "pandemic" is grounds to change the terms of their employment which isn't always the case
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:38 pm to Gee Grenouille
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Two computers with 8 screens for me
Kevin (our desktop apps guy and all around powershell and SCCM god) is that you?
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:43 pm to MRTigerFan
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If showing up to work isn't important then why does your employer want you to show up? If you are honestly performing so much better working from home then any decent employer wouldn't have a problem with you continueing to work from home.
I didn’t start this thread, I’ve been working from home for 10+ years
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If they expect you to show up at work, then maybe you need to show up at work. That's all I'm saying
Or, find a new job. Why is that so bad? If someone else is offering you a comparable position that allows you to work remotely, what’s so bad about taking them up on it? If your employer wants you to go into the office and you can complete your job from home with the same efficiency, they are being unreasonable. And that’s fine, it’s their right to be unreasonable, but they should expect to lose valuable employees.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:44 pm to MRTigerFan
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A lot of people are making the assumption that this "pandemic" is grounds to change the terms of their employment which isn't always the case
People love to cry about free markets but when the market labor demands things they don't understand, they act like those people are stupid
The pandemic opened many peoples' eyes about WFH, and if employers will demand employees be in the office when they don't feel it's necessary, then they will find another job.
Personally I've been WFH since 2018, so the pandemic didnt change much for me regarding work.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 7:48 pm to Hulkklogan
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The pandemic opened many peoples' eyes about WFH, and if employers will demand employees be in the office when they don't feel it's necessary, then they will find another job.
We lost two of our apps folks to this. Took a full-time WFH gig for a raise. We also had young up and coming attorneys stipulating WFH as a condition of employment. All the top law firms have moved to either a full WFH environment or a hybrid at the least. I don't mind coming in to the office a couple days a week because I live five minutes from our downtown office. We have folks who have an hour commute who have told to just WFH permanently. It's not worth their waste of time or resources on the commute to sit in traffic to do what they can do just as effectively from home.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 7:49 pm
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