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re: Remember when NFTs were all the rage, especially those stupid Ape ones?

Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:05 am to
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:05 am to
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I was told I was dumb for pointing out that they have zero utility and therefore have no real value

Would you say the same for art? Anything can be assigned value, but utility is far down the list of determinants.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54915 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:06 am to
I still want to see how the legitimate photography NFTs do.

One day artistic photos had no real value to them. The only value, outside of selling prints, was in licensing which wasn't much in the grand scheme of things.

One day NFTs came along and something that was valued in cents became worth tens of thousands of dollars. Many photographers made good money on them, some made life changing money. Part of the deal was that the artist would maintain their rights to the piece and would receive ~10% of any and all future sales of the NFT.

I asked of people a few times the earnings from future the secondary sales market. If any piece had been sold by the "collector" for a profit. I never got a straight answer.

In order for those photography NFTs to have any real value the pieces would need to increase in value and there would need to be a competitive market for them. I still don't know if that is the case.

I don't knock any photographers for riding the wave and banking money. I do fault a seemingly "house of cards" collector's market that popped up practically over night.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 9:08 am
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17187 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:07 am to
The underlying currency being down 72% since then certainly doesnt help
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2797 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:07 am to
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Would you say the same for art? Anything can be assigned value, but utility is far down the list of determinants.


You can decorate your home with it, so yes it has more utility than an ape picture on your computer does
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17187 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:09 am to
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You can decorate your home with it, so yes it has more utility than an ape picture on your computer does


So a $3 painting has the same utility as a $3m one, got it
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3514 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:10 am to
My interpretation of an NFT is that it is a more expensive version of the “name a star” after someone for $25 and we’ll send you a certificate letting you know which star is now named after you.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:11 am to
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You can decorate your home with it, so yes it has more utility than an ape picture on your computer does


So how do you differentiate the utility value of a print vs an original?
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 9:12 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116326 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:12 am to
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Would you say the same for art?


Was waiting for this.

You are right that art doesn't necessarily have utility in the sense that he is referring to.

And art, such as paintings, are mostly subjective as to what is important and what has value.

However...

Most art is tangible. You can touch it. The artist can only make so many of them, and once he is gone, he can't make anymore.

So I understand it to a certain degree.

The NFTs are fricking retarded.
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
233 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:13 am to
I think you are forgetting some of the member benefits that make this so valuable.

"For example, one benefit is that members can access The Bathroom, which is called a "collaborative art experience for the cryptosphere." This means members can paint a pixel on a digital bathroom wall."

You don't get that kind of experience for free.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67021 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:13 am to
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The NFT for this costed me 350$


Will Campbell finna eat
Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
60744 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:14 am to
NFT = non-fungible token

It's the new swampland in the Sahara Desert.

FYI, I only buy fungible tokens. Fungibility is the way to go.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116326 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:14 am to
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"For example, one benefit is that members can access The Bathroom, which is called a "collaborative art experience for the cryptosphere." This means members can paint a pixel on a digital bathroom wall."


Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:16 am to
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The artist can only make so many of them, and once he is gone, he can't make anymore.

But many people can replicate the art. What makes the original more valuable? I know the answer, which is why I say utility is far down the list of determinants for decadence. NFT's are dumb, but only for those who were screwed over.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2797 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:17 am to
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So a $3 painting has the same utility as a $3m one, got it


Hey man, enjoy your worthless ape pics while you trade your worthless crypto. Just don’t be the last one holding the bag.

I don’t begrudge anyone on making money off some other sucker. Rock on.

I could see value in original photography, that’s a potentially valid market
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114059 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:18 am to
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I still don’t understand NFTs


Its pretty much the original version of an electronic image. NFT is non-fungible token.

If you take a picture or create a gif and post it on social media that is the original version. If people save that picture of gif and then report it, and then a bunch of people do the same, that's all copies of the picture, in this NFT world, if what you posted went viral then in theory your original version has value.

Its like if you had an original babe ruth baseball card, made a few copies of it and handed them out, then other people made copies of the copies you gave them, all of those copies have no value, the actual real card, that you own, has value.

The meme of that little girl smiling with her house burning in the background.. Someone bought the original of that picture for a lot of money.

Another example are valuable paintings. A lot of people might own copies of that painting, but the only one that is valuable is the original. People compare NFTs to valuable paintings and consider it an investment thinking it will become more valuable with time.. But of course its only as valuable as someone will pay for it.

People will spend money on the dumbest shite so I guess there is a market for it, but if there are millions of NFTs only a small percentage would actually sell so its a risky investment.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3557 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:18 am to


Every time I think we hit peak clown world, something sets the bar higher.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116326 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:19 am to
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But many people can replicate the art.


They cannot, because they are not the artist.

You can't right click and save on the original Starry Night
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84306 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:19 am to
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What makes the original more valuable?


There is only one of it, the original art required talent that was recognized by society, and it is not something that exists solely on a screen that is easily copied.
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NFT's are dumb, but only for those who were screwed over.


Wrong. NFTs are dumb for everyone.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 9:20 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150868 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:19 am to
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How is it still worth $74,000?

It's "worth" that because someone is still willing to pay $74k for it (supposedly).
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This had to be a scheme like the old FB market place adds where people would sell a pencil for $500, but the first person to buy the pencil also got a pair of LSU-Bama tickets.

Not the same thing at all. In your scenario, you got something "of worth" for you $500: LSU/Bama tickets.

In this scenario, you'd pay $74k for the "rights" to this gorilla picture. You don't actually own the picture, and anybody else on the internet can download and obtain a copy of the picture too. It's the dumbest thing ever, yet people went spastic about it, and some people duped others and made a fortune. Think about that for a second...in the OP, someone made $1.3 million dollars from Justin Beiber because he bought the NFT of that picture. How hilarious is that shite?
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17187 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:20 am to
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Most art is tangible. You can touch it. The artist can only make so many of them, and once he is gone, he can't make anymore.


You may be surprised to know that some artists have moved to NFTs. They create 1/1 pieces as part of a collection. Some include the ability to receive a tangible version as well. The artist will not duplicate them and once he is gone, no more will be made.

These types of collections are basically the same thing as physical art, just a different medium. They rarely provide any utility and are for collectors.

Of course there is a whole space of those that are looking for quick money and then rug pull.

There are some collections that attempt to provide utility, such as staking the NFT for rewards, such as native tokens which can be converted to cash or buy things. Other collections offer services in the space, in which holders take part in profit sharing.

The overpriced vanity NFTs, just about everyone doesn't understand them.
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