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re: Red Lobster lists 99 restaurants closures in 28 states

Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Tigerroar73
Member since Oct 2014
169 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:06 am to
So the Kangz in the ghetto won't get to dress up in tuxedos and spend seemingly their entire weekly income there every weekend?
Posted by BigGreenTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2022
259 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:04 am to
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But then it reads like the hedge fund leased the land it sold back to the company it now owns? That’s not possible.


sold to seperate entity. (same owners.) Drastically increased rent to drive up the value of the land (higher potential rental income.) Bankrupts the restaurant captures the loss. Will reacquire the land under original fund then sell the land at a profit and minimize their taxes due to a carried capital loss.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116767 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:07 am to
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sold to seperate entity. (same owners.) Drastically increased rent to drive up the value of the land (higher potential rental income.) Bankrupts the restaurant captures the loss. Will reacquire the land under original fund then sell the land at a profit and minimize their taxes due to a carried capital loss.



The OT definitely knows better than these evil Hedge Funds on how to make money
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
3808 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:09 am to
The one in Paducah I never eat at survives. Kentucky obesity FTW lol
Posted by BigGreenTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2022
259 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:10 am to
yea, I don't do it for a living or anything..
Posted by TigerDoug
Lees Summit
Member since Mar 2017
620 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:12 am to
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Confirmed that Golden Gate DID NOT own the real estate - sevearl REITs did.


Good research.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
6754 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:41 am to
Good article about what happened to Red Lobster


How a Global Seafood Giant Broke Red Lobster
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114216 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:10 am to
I have never been to a red lobster in my life. I live in South Louisiana. I refuse to go to a chain seafood restaurant.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51620 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:48 am to
That's a real good article
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4776 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:45 am to
IIRC, the one in Jxn, MS has been closed for nearly a year.

I was stationed at Barksdale when the one in Bossier opened, 1991ish?

Call me low rent, but I like the Lobster and Taco Bell.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 9:58 am
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7284 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:52 am to
It's when they started using Tilapia
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10471 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:08 am to
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Auburn, Alabama
Athens, Georgia
Gainesville, Florida


SEC road trips just won't be the same without those cheddar biscuits.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
8037 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:27 am to
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It makes no sense. Hedge fund buys the company and sells the land the restaurants are located on. Fine that can happen

But then it reads like the hedge fund leased the land it sold back to the company it now owns? That’s not possible.

It's very possible that Red Lobster, the restaurant business, and Red Lobster, the land management business, were two seperate legal entities controlled by the same umbrella. One arm of Red Lobster (restaurant) could therefore "lease" from the other arm of Red Lobster (land).

Under this scenario the hedge fund came in and sold off one branch of the umbrella and the land that came with it. With that sale came control of the leases, and the new owners jacked up the leases from affordable (realistically, next to nothing, since they were all previously "negotiated" internally) to unaffordable in a hurry.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99779 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:29 am to
From the CNN article, it sounds like their new ownership fricked up the culture and forced the company into an unfavorable (and unprofitable) self-dealing relationship for its seafood.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34287 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:32 am to
Precisely. People see these closings as always quality and service related
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99779 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:52 am to
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Precisely. People see these closings as always quality and service related


I've never eaten at one, but aside from the snobbish derision on TD (and in pop culture) as to the "mass market" seafood, I've never heard of anyone complaining about the service there.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34287 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:06 am to
I don't go there often but I've never had one not do what it said it would do. Let's be honest: White flight is real as RL has become a consistent option in the black community
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
18771 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:19 am to
There is a Red Lobster on the waterfront in Ft Walton Beach. I always wonder who comes to the beach and eats at Red Lobster. It’s not on the closure list, so I guess a lot of people eat there.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
577 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:21 am to
White and black trash that have no clue local seafood places actually taste better/fresher.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22710 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:19 pm to
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What about the one in Monroe? I never see cars there.


I worked there in the early 90's.



I remember back in the glory days of the Airport Lounge this girl was telling me about all of the interesting pilots, movie producers, and varied adventurers she would meet there at the Airport. I didn't break it to her that she was getting passed around by the Red Lobster waitstaff. Play on, player.

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It was literally one of the busiest Red Lobsters in the chain



It's been dead for decades now. I don't see how in the hell they've stayed open with no more than four or five cars there at lunch. I don't pass by as often at dinner but I don't think it's much different.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 1:20 pm
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