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re: Realistic job expectations
Posted on 6/4/16 at 4:22 pm to volod
Posted on 6/4/16 at 4:22 pm to volod
From the OP:
If it is a question, one doesn't know what he (or she) is worth if he (or she) doesn't take a job and engage their training into their career.
You are the human equivalent of building a dam in the desert until you take a job.
tl/dr: Stop posting here and take any related job in your field.
Start.
Baby steps.
quote:This is a question?
With that said, how does one know what he is worth.
If it is a question, one doesn't know what he (or she) is worth if he (or she) doesn't take a job and engage their training into their career.
You are the human equivalent of building a dam in the desert until you take a job.
tl/dr: Stop posting here and take any related job in your field.
Start.
Baby steps.
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 4:51 pm to volod
Recent PETE grad and I'll take anything resembling an industry job right now for half your asking price. I don't know if you're living in the same job market as me but I can't even land an interview, much less start demanding salary.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 5:14 pm to Tigerbiscuits
You guys need to come to SW Louisiana. I just graduated last a year and a month ago with a degree in instrumentation, and I am already making 77K before taxes, and that's not including my per diem. I'm only working for a contractor at the moment, but it's a maintenance gig with a 5 year contract that just started.
Also have an interview with a plant to go in house next week, and if I get that I would get a considerable increase in pay.
Also have an interview with a plant to go in house next week, and if I get that I would get a considerable increase in pay.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 5:19 pm to Tigerbiscuits
quote:
Recent PETE grad
PETE grads are some of the most industrious people in college world ( in my opinion, PETE is harder than ChemE)
That being said, why are you guys suffering so much. You are more intelligent than AT LEAST 80% of the current degree holders.
I honestly though my asking price was modest. I know a Civ E making 60k and a nurse making 58k in Houston, TX (Tech grads).
Unless the cost of living in Houston is MUCH higher than Baton Rouge, I though those salaries were the norm. But everyone on here is saying otherwise, so perhaps these 60k people are just extreme outliers.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 5:26 pm to volod
Did you mean Southwest Louisiana Technical College AKA Sowela? Cause that's where I went.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 5:34 pm to rballa19
quote:
Did you mean Southwest Louisiana Technical College
I did a quick search and Northwest came up first. But either way, I would not mind majoring in instrumentation after looking at their curriculum.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 5:38 pm to volod
FYI most companies like people who can make intelligent decisions themselves, which judging by the fact you ask us for reassurance every time you take a shite, you can't do. It's a valuable skill you need to learn man.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 6:21 pm to volod
Would only take a year, and I think you can be an Instrument Engineer if you already have an engineering degree.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:04 am to Deactived
The caveat is that you graduated from Southern. I'm glad I'm not you.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:48 am to volod
quote:
There is no reason why I cant make AT LEAST 60k starting with an advanced degree.
Unless nobody will pay you that much. That might be a reason.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 5:10 am to volod
quote:
Realistic blowjob expectations
If you're married then between 0-1 time a year. If you were born February 29th you're SOL.
If you're single then there's still a chance.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 5:17 am
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:15 am to someoldhussy
quote:
Unless nobody will pay you that much. That might be a reason.
I was convinced that as long as I had an engineering degree. ANY engineering degree. I would be better off in the long run.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:34 am to volod
Wow you spent a shite pile of money & time for what? If you want 70k I suggest you go sell cars radio advertising hell give Lamar a try selling billboard advertising
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:50 am to volod
To be honest it may actually hurt you trying to get your first job. MS with no experience is a kiss of death. I had to have a friend pull my resume out of garbage twice and put it on the hiring managers desk, and I had 5 years experience in an off campus lab. He was convinced I would leave as soon as I could, since they were hiring entry level, but I got in with persistence on my friends part.
Seriously, this is not going to be easy. I told you the civil servant route is what you should focus on, they LOVE diversity.
Seriously, this is not going to be easy. I told you the civil servant route is what you should focus on, they LOVE diversity.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 6:56 am
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:37 am to volod
quote:
But whats the point of high starting salary if you have to work an additional 2 to 3 years before earning it.
That would mean that, ostensibly, engineering is no different than any other profession.
People think engineers all make bank out of school. It's not always true. Maybe 5% at most of new grads are pulling those high numbers. 50k is a pretty solid start. I work in what at least used to be one of the higher paying industries (O&G). I did not make what you are asking out of school. By my second year I was just past 70k. By my 5th year, I had doubled that with bonuses. That's what happens with an engineer. There are not many other degrees other than Law and Medicine that will regularly catapult you that high, that quickly. So engineering is different than any other profession.
And, it's actually not all engineering positions. I bet our R&D guys don't make that much. They are comfortable, but not tearing it up. It's the guys who learn the nuts and bolts, then position themselves to get their hands in the operations and financials. Once you have that, you are very valuable to the business and you leave the calculator behind and move up quickly. You have to position yourself for that. It's a project management position before long. At least in the industries I'm familiar with.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:51 am to volod
quote:.
There is no reason why I cant make AT LEAST 60k starting with an advanced degree
quote:
in my opinion, PETE is harder than ChemE
Engineering masters degrees really aren't a guaranteed "upgrade" on your degree. For the most part, you are just taking more technical electives or "advanced" classes you've already taken. So you are just getting a more focused education on some particular topics. Unless you have an industry in particular that you are working for, it's not all that valuable to your employer since they are going to really have to teach you a lot about that industry to make you valuable to them anyway. No amount of classroom learning directly applies to industry. I mean my O&G job never cared about my HVAC elective or the Jet and Rocket Propulsion class that was offered. I had to use my knowledge for sure, but apply it to how my industry did things.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:10 am to KG6
quote:
Engineering masters degrees really aren't a guaranteed "upgrade" on your degree
To be fair, I already knew that. Im just upset that do not have BS in engineering (considering that I WOULD have one if I did my undergrad at Southern)
If you went to LSU or Tech, you know EXACTLY what I mean.
As for your salary quotes, I guess I had misunderstandings. But in all fairness, schools do not exactly push engineering as field with a moderate pay and better payoff a little later.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 8:17 am
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:12 am to KG6
Volod,
I did not go to A&M , however, partially the reason I was hired at that rate is how some folks alluded to in this thread. I had prior to my degree roughly 5 years of Retail Sales and Management under my belt. The biggest gripe for large corporations when I was graduating at the time is the fact that Engineers cannot communicate well. I just celebrated my 1 year anniversary here and guess who is already been cross trained to represent the Engineering Services Team to our customer (TMO, Verizon, ATT, Sprint, US Cellular and more) and continues to get put into that role even as I work primarily in a lab doing Testing and Validation of Software for my great company? That's right, the guy with the half decade of face to face customer interaction experience underneath his belt.
You cant just sit in a corner and write code all day. No one will pay you that wage you seek starting off. Differentiate yourself.
I did not go to A&M , however, partially the reason I was hired at that rate is how some folks alluded to in this thread. I had prior to my degree roughly 5 years of Retail Sales and Management under my belt. The biggest gripe for large corporations when I was graduating at the time is the fact that Engineers cannot communicate well. I just celebrated my 1 year anniversary here and guess who is already been cross trained to represent the Engineering Services Team to our customer (TMO, Verizon, ATT, Sprint, US Cellular and more) and continues to get put into that role even as I work primarily in a lab doing Testing and Validation of Software for my great company? That's right, the guy with the half decade of face to face customer interaction experience underneath his belt.
You cant just sit in a corner and write code all day. No one will pay you that wage you seek starting off. Differentiate yourself.
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:14 am to KG6
quote:
in my opinion, PETE is harder than ChemE
Is petroleum actually easier than ChemE. It seemed that PETE learn more about direct application of oil extraction versus the more theoretical thermodynamics behind the applications.
Both are very hard. But I assume their are more discrepancies.
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