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re: Realistic job expectations
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:37 pm to volod
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:37 pm to volod
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But whats the point of high starting salary if you have to work an additional 2 to 3 years before earning it.
That would mean that, ostensibly, engineering is no different than any other profession.
Hyperbole much?
For frick's sake dude, the average income across all Americans regardless of experience is 50k.
You are acting like there is no point unless you start above that. And the title of this thread is "realistic job expectations."
Not an engineer, but my first job was at 40k.
Within 2 years they tacked on 25k+ after proving my worth. And in general, that's how it goes. Gotta prove your value BEFORE they pay you. They typically aren't going to do that shite on faith.
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:42 pm to volod
I'm pretty sure volod is a SJW doing an undercover expose for the Reveille on how horrible LSU fans are.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:47 pm to Volvagia
And furthermore, the boss is not going to bow before you because you graduated with a degree. So has every other swinging dick who started entry level. If anything, the best approach at first is not expectations but gracious and humble. Nobody in the office likes the fresh college grad.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:53 pm to volod
Probably not as useful for a first job, but there are sites that will help you evaluate your current market value based on location, experience, etc. Payscale is a good place to start, and linkedin is rolling out a salary comp feature
Posted on 6/4/16 at 1:19 pm to volod
Posted on 6/4/16 at 1:35 pm to volod
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I want a 65k to 70k engineering job
Didn't you just take the PLE test for the state recently?
Because that coupled with your Southern degree ain't going to net you a 65k to 70k engineering job.
Not trying to be mean, just don't want you to be shocked when you have to completely lower your standards and settle for a third of what you're hoping for
Posted on 6/4/16 at 1:48 pm to volod
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For example, I want a 65k to 70k engineering job. I'm willing to negotiate, but I have standards.
No one that I graduated with broke $70k except maybe one guy who got on with an oil company. Everyone that got on with Entergy was low to mid 60's. Others were mid 50's. All but one person had passed the FE.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:00 pm to THRILLHO
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No one that I graduated with broke $70k except maybe one guy who got on with an oil company. Everyone that got on with Entergy was low to mid 60's. Others were mid 50's. All but one person had passed the FE.
1) I have an MS degree in Electrical Engineering
2) 65k + is my upper most limit. At a minimum I will take 60k. I posted my preferred rate earlier
3) all engineering degrees are not created equal. Why are some Biomed engineers making between 45 to 50k ??
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:16 pm to volod
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Biomed engineers making between 45 to 50k ??
Because they are often glorified lab techs. You typically need a PhD to make the big bucks.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:20 pm to volod
Make sure you don't screw up my order at the drive through while you're waiting for the 65K offer.
You don't have realistic job expectations. You have your expectations are were hoping someone here would agree with them. I think you've found out that you are completely off base.
The only area you are going to get the salary you want is in Oil & Gas, and I don't know if you've noticed, but no one is hiring. In fact, people much more qualified that you are losing jobs daily and flooding the market.
Good Luck.
You don't have realistic job expectations. You have your expectations are were hoping someone here would agree with them. I think you've found out that you are completely off base.
The only area you are going to get the salary you want is in Oil & Gas, and I don't know if you've noticed, but no one is hiring. In fact, people much more qualified that you are losing jobs daily and flooding the market.
Good Luck.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:24 pm to Nobs
I know a civil engineer from Tech who made 60k starting.
There is no reason why I cant make AT LEAST 60k starting with an advanced degree.
There is no reason why I cant make AT LEAST 60k starting with an advanced degree.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:29 pm to volod
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At a minimum I will take 60k.
What a terrible way to enter the job market.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:57 pm to volod
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cant make AT LEAST 60k starting with an advanced degree.
I came out of school with a master's, far more research experience, and realized very quickly that a master's doesn't mean a whole lot without industry experience.
A lot of entry level jobs have a base salary in the $40-50 k range. However, a good company will have a bonus system, and you may be eligible for a raise after your first 90 days.
Yea you may start at a lower salary for the first year or two, but you are positioned to raise your salary very quickly after you prove yourself.
After 2-3 years if you aren't earning what other people with your qualifications are then you can leverage that by looking for a better offer. Having real world experience will make you much more desirable.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:00 pm to volod
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I know a civil engineer from Tech who made 60k starting.
wow that's a lot lower than I would have guessed, my degree is in civil engineering, kind of glad I never had to use it
sort of jk, I've got friends that are engineers that have done just fine
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:07 pm to volod
Masters in engineering are mostly bullshite, literally no engineer needs a masters. You'll be lucky to find A job, and foolish to pass up anything.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:26 pm to volod
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Southern University
The Leesville McDonald's is looking for night managers.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:34 pm to volod
It will always come down to how many other qualified individuals do the same type of work. Numbers will always dictate the worth early in a career.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 4:03 pm to Gaston
Would you say that to your professors at LSU ??
Posted on 6/4/16 at 4:04 pm to geauxbrown
Yeah, and as mentioned before, a lot of EE's were laid off by oil companies and the market is a bit flooded. After graduating, it took me 7 months to find a job and the pay was less than expected. Not being an EIT won't help either.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 4:13 pm to volod
I was the only US citizen in my class, that should tell you something. I told them the exact job I wanted and when I got the dream interview I bombed the most important part. When I sat down with them and went through all of the interview questions all of the stuff I didn't know fell into 2 classes that I never took. I asked them WTF and they basically said they hadn't offered those classes in my years there.
Yea.
The programs are setup for PhDs, not masters. They wanted me to go PhD, I just wanted an applied physics degree I could get a job with. I never got a device physics job and never, ever worked as an EE. I worked as a project engineer for UL, then just made my way through different jobs. I'm a mechanical engineer now, so I wouldn't nessarily say my MSEE did a whole lot for me.
LSU was fun as all get out and I enjoyed being in grad school and continuing to work at CAMD.
Yea.
The programs are setup for PhDs, not masters. They wanted me to go PhD, I just wanted an applied physics degree I could get a job with. I never got a device physics job and never, ever worked as an EE. I worked as a project engineer for UL, then just made my way through different jobs. I'm a mechanical engineer now, so I wouldn't nessarily say my MSEE did a whole lot for me.
LSU was fun as all get out and I enjoyed being in grad school and continuing to work at CAMD.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 4:15 pm
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