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re: Rank these events in terms of historical significance
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:16 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:16 pm to Indefatigable
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Tier 1
Great Depression
9/11
2020 COVID-19 Pandemic
Tier 2
Pearl Harbor
Great Recession of 2008
Pearl Harbor got the US involved in WWII. I don't know if I'd list it as tier 2 and 9/11 as tier 1. It was tragic that thousands of Americans lost their lives but not as historically significant imo.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:17 pm to PhillyFan1994
Great Depression
2020
pearl harbor
9/11
great recession
katrina
JFK
2020
pearl harbor
9/11
great recession
katrina
JFK
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:18 pm to PhillyFan1994
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2020 COVID-19 Pandemic
Pearl Harbor Bombings
Great Depression
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9/11
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JFK Assassination
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Great Recession of 2008
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Hurricane Katrina
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:18 pm to fallguy_1978
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Pearl Harbor got the US involved in WWII
We were going to war against Japan and Germany within the next year or so either way. PH is obviously incredibly significant for the American psyche, but we were going to war anyways. It just made our choice easier.
9/11 is orders of magnitude more historically impactful. The endless wars and conflicts in the middle east, combined with the surveillance states that have cropped up across the west. The sheer partisanship it has sprung in the United States in the aftermath. Far more impactful than PH. We're still dealing with its effects 20 years later.
As a comparison, by 1961, Japan had a western constitution, listened to American music, and was importing blue jeans by the boat load
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:24 pm to dawgfan24348
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Covid-19 Pandemic
9/11
Great Depression
Pearl Harbor
JFK Assassination
Great Recession
Katrina
I understand that the rankings will be all over the place but Covid is only such a big deal because global governments have made it one. It isn't close to some of these.
The Western world fighting against Hitler and Imperial Japan or some virus with a 99.8% survival rate
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:29 pm to fallguy_1978
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some virus with a 99.8% survival rate ?
A virus with a death toll of over 1.3 million worldwide and counting, responsible for a World GDP loss of over 12 trillion, and greatly restricted/altered life in our country and most others for over a year. COVID is certainly more than "some virus" regardless of what aisle you stand on politically.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:30 pm to fallguy_1978
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99.8% survival rate
my post really had nothing to do with these numbers. but, the fact that it has effected pretty much every country on the planet.
katrina,jfk,recession,depression don't compare
9/11 and pearl harbor i can see an argument for. but, we haven't seen the total impact of the pandemic yet.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:30 pm to PhillyFan1994
Pearl Harbor attack --> WWII
Great Depression
COVID-19 because of the economic impact and millions upon millions losing everything without warning, overnight
9/11
JFK assassination
Great Recession of 2008
Hurricane Katrina
Great Depression
COVID-19 because of the economic impact and millions upon millions losing everything without warning, overnight
9/11
JFK assassination
Great Recession of 2008
Hurricane Katrina
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:32 pm to dawgfan24348
Not only are you poor, you are fricking stupid. 
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:33 pm to fallguy_1978
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Pearl Harbor got the US involved in WWII. I don't know if I'd list it as tier 2 and 9/11 as tier 1. It was tragic that thousands of Americans lost their lives but not as historically significant imo.
Pearl Harbor started a war with Japan, two of these ended it. Historically significant?
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:34 pm to PhillyFan1994
Tier 1
Great Depression - Was a massive domino of events following this.
Pearl Harbor - Not debatable. The use of the Atomic Bomb alone makes this top of the list.
JFK Assassination It's this or 9/11. I think we are in the same spot if 9/11 doesn't happen honestly. If JFK never happened, I have no idea where we'd be. That revolves completely around who wanted him removed.
Tier 2
9/11 - It seems to have just been an extension of Middle East Policy that just accelerated some actions we probably would have taken anyway.
China Flu - Could be higher on the list, here is where it is now.
Great Recession - Didn't really change anything, honestly.
Tier 3
Katrina - Eh, what? Not in the realm of any of the above.
Great Depression - Was a massive domino of events following this.
Pearl Harbor - Not debatable. The use of the Atomic Bomb alone makes this top of the list.
JFK Assassination It's this or 9/11. I think we are in the same spot if 9/11 doesn't happen honestly. If JFK never happened, I have no idea where we'd be. That revolves completely around who wanted him removed.
Tier 2
9/11 - It seems to have just been an extension of Middle East Policy that just accelerated some actions we probably would have taken anyway.
China Flu - Could be higher on the list, here is where it is now.
Great Recession - Didn't really change anything, honestly.
Tier 3
Katrina - Eh, what? Not in the realm of any of the above.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:36 pm to PhillyFan1994
3 9/11
7 Hurricane Katrina
4 2020 COVID-19 Pandemic
2 Pearl Harbor Bombings
5 Great Recession of 2008
1 Great Depression
6 JFK Assassination
7 Hurricane Katrina
4 2020 COVID-19 Pandemic
2 Pearl Harbor Bombings
5 Great Recession of 2008
1 Great Depression
6 JFK Assassination
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:15 pm to fallguy_1978
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some virus with a 99.8% survival rate
You can spout your little PT talking points all you want but denying the impact this pandemic has had on the world is asnine. And who knows the long term effects that the pandmeic will have on the world going into the future.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:16 pm to Loup
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How do you consider hurricane katrina to even be in the same ball park as the rest?
That's what I am thinking. Was it bad? yes, for the areas it hit, but its historical significance nationally shouldn't be in the same category as the others.
And I am surprised people are not ranking the assassination of a US president as high as they are.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:19 pm to PhillyFan1994
9/11
COVID
Pearl Harbor, even if we were getting involved soon enough anyway, but that keeps it down to 3.
Big gap.
Great Depression
Big gap.
JFK
2008 Recession
Katrina
COVID
Pearl Harbor, even if we were getting involved soon enough anyway, but that keeps it down to 3.
Big gap.
Great Depression
Big gap.
JFK
2008 Recession
Katrina
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:22 pm to LSUBoo
Would rank the Great Depression higher because not only did it occur in the US but also world wide and set up what would become WWII later on
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:23 pm to dawgfan24348
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You can spout your little PT talking points all you want but denying the impact this pandemic has had on the world is asnine. And who knows the long term effects that the pandmeic will have on the world going into the future.
frick you
The primary effect has been to show how herdable the country is.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:26 pm to LSUBoo
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Great Depression
Would be #1 if more recent. Worldwide for a decade with huge lasting effects. There were actual soup lines. Not shortages of toilet paper bc people were hoarding, but actual hungry people desperate for a job.
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:32 pm to fallguy_1978
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I understand that the rankings will be all over the place but Covid is only such a big deal because global governments have made it one. It isn't close to some of these.
It’s not the question of whether you think the reaction to the virus is warranted or not. The effects of this will be seen for years in the economy, governmental policies, and public mindsets all around the world.
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