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re: Ram vs F150 vs Silverado
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:06 am to crispyUGA
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:06 am to crispyUGA
My dealership has 1200 vehicles in inventory so I was able to drive one of basically everything(except the new Titan) before I bought my 2014 Ram 1500.
Here are my takes:
The Chevys and GMCs are so incredibly nice and smooth and quiet for a truck. They literally feel like a lifted Impala, but that was part of the turnoff. Not truckish enough for me. My parents also always had Chevys growing up so subconsciously they aren’t that interesting to me, and I wasn’t going to spend $35k on a truck unless I was excited about it. Plus, I’ve never really liked GM’s 6L80E transmission. Not terribly responsive and they don’t seem to age well in my experience.
Tundras are awesome trucks but I just don’t like them enough to buy one. Refinement-wise they’re still stuck around 2010 and their tech is hopelessly outdated. The 5.7 is one hell of an engine but it sounds like a leaf blower and I can’t get past that either. I have yet to keep a vehicle longer than 2 years so the longevity of a Toyota doesn’t matter to me as a buyer right now. I’ve never liked the way they handle in the snow either, and it does snow a fair bit here in Montana so that was a no-go.
I very nearly pulled the trigger on a 2015 F150 Lariat 5.0L with 7500 miles on it. Extremely nice place to be, plus it was fast as a motherfricker. Genuinely the fastest gas-engine truck I’ve ever driven, and I’ve driven a few. My issues with the Ford were too much useless tech(IMO) coupled with very numb and disconnected-feeling electric steering and a touchy, hard-to-modulate brake pedal. Those last 3 things made it difficult to drive smoothly/confidently in the snow.
Then I drove the Ram, and that was that. Felt so much more like a truck, plus it rode better with rear coil springs instead of leaves. Natural-feeling talkative hydraulic steering, good brake pedal and I absolutely love the ZF 8-speed auto. It’s been the luxury car industry standard for 6-7 years now and I can definitely see why.
As an aside, I’ll say this about how well Tundras age: from a salesman’s perspective, I don’t worry about any Tundra we get traded in as long as it’s under 200k miles. Anything less than that and I just kinda shrug and say whatever, it’s good to go, and even if it’s over 200k as long as it runs and drives well then no worries. The highest mileage vehicle I’ve ever sold was a Tundra, a 2006 with 262k that ran and drove literally perfectly. On the flip side, drawing from my experience with American half-tons, anything over 130k on a Ford/Chevy/GMC/Ram makes me nervous. They just aren’t made as well. Don’t know how else to say it.
Ultimately, I chose the Ram because I felt more at home in it than anything else I drove. Buy what feels the best to you, financially and otherwise.
Here are my takes:
The Chevys and GMCs are so incredibly nice and smooth and quiet for a truck. They literally feel like a lifted Impala, but that was part of the turnoff. Not truckish enough for me. My parents also always had Chevys growing up so subconsciously they aren’t that interesting to me, and I wasn’t going to spend $35k on a truck unless I was excited about it. Plus, I’ve never really liked GM’s 6L80E transmission. Not terribly responsive and they don’t seem to age well in my experience.
Tundras are awesome trucks but I just don’t like them enough to buy one. Refinement-wise they’re still stuck around 2010 and their tech is hopelessly outdated. The 5.7 is one hell of an engine but it sounds like a leaf blower and I can’t get past that either. I have yet to keep a vehicle longer than 2 years so the longevity of a Toyota doesn’t matter to me as a buyer right now. I’ve never liked the way they handle in the snow either, and it does snow a fair bit here in Montana so that was a no-go.
I very nearly pulled the trigger on a 2015 F150 Lariat 5.0L with 7500 miles on it. Extremely nice place to be, plus it was fast as a motherfricker. Genuinely the fastest gas-engine truck I’ve ever driven, and I’ve driven a few. My issues with the Ford were too much useless tech(IMO) coupled with very numb and disconnected-feeling electric steering and a touchy, hard-to-modulate brake pedal. Those last 3 things made it difficult to drive smoothly/confidently in the snow.
Then I drove the Ram, and that was that. Felt so much more like a truck, plus it rode better with rear coil springs instead of leaves. Natural-feeling talkative hydraulic steering, good brake pedal and I absolutely love the ZF 8-speed auto. It’s been the luxury car industry standard for 6-7 years now and I can definitely see why.
As an aside, I’ll say this about how well Tundras age: from a salesman’s perspective, I don’t worry about any Tundra we get traded in as long as it’s under 200k miles. Anything less than that and I just kinda shrug and say whatever, it’s good to go, and even if it’s over 200k as long as it runs and drives well then no worries. The highest mileage vehicle I’ve ever sold was a Tundra, a 2006 with 262k that ran and drove literally perfectly. On the flip side, drawing from my experience with American half-tons, anything over 130k on a Ford/Chevy/GMC/Ram makes me nervous. They just aren’t made as well. Don’t know how else to say it.
Ultimately, I chose the Ram because I felt more at home in it than anything else I drove. Buy what feels the best to you, financially and otherwise.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:46 am to Rocco4
quote:
Ram vs F150 vs Silverado
Are you buying a truck for your wife?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:08 pm to Rocco4
How long you going to keep it?
Drive the Tundra and New Titan before you buy
Drive the Tundra and New Titan before you buy
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:32 pm to jordan21210
FYI, I drive a Ram for a company truck. Not that much better than '03. Believe me, I've worked on a shite ton more than you've ever sat in. But thanks for the input!
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:38 pm to PaperPaintball92
quote:Anyone saying Dodge when discussing Ram shouldnt be listened to, since Ram broke away from Dodge years ago
Ford>Dodge
Basically, it proves people spout old shite they have heard without doing any real research
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:45 pm to Croozin2
quote:
FYI, I drive a Ram for a company truck. Not that much better than '03. Believe me, I've worked on a shite ton more than you've ever sat in. But thanks for the input!
Cool. I own a 2015 Ram and had a 2011 and a 2004 before it. My 2015’s leather wrapped dash and 8 speed transmission say you are wrong, but thanks for your input.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:53 pm to jordan21210
Comparing any Ram pre 2013 is asinine
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:56 pm to jordan21210
You boys sure are touchy about your pickups.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:58 pm to Janky
quote:
You boys sure are touchy about your pickups.
I will never be loyal to 1 brand.
Also, sidenote, I used to audit all major dealerships in south LA. Gives a pretty good advantage on knowing the pricing of cars/truck, and the exact ratios of which ones are brought in more with issues than others
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:10 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I will never be loyal to 1 brand.
I get a different kind every time.
I can say my Ram never gave me any issue. My Tundra went back for a new radio and a back window rattle, but nothing major. Current truck has been 100%, but I only have 4k on it.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:15 pm to 3deadtrolls
quote:I have owned all 3. Loved Chevys in the late 90s/2000s, then ford clearly took the lead for me, now the new line of rams are the winner.
I get a different kind every time.
When it is time for me to get a new truck (likely around 2025 or so)I will research again
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:32 pm to Them
quote:
Have fun paying for fluid flushes and an engine reseal.
Nah, I'll have fun dropping in a built fire breathing smallblock chevy, throaty exhaust, and built TH-2004R. Then I'll have fun adding a few other modifications to make it mine, say maybe some CTS seats and a modern audio video system. And I'll still have $$ to spare compared to a new tin foil or "steel" truck.
Keep your data recorder and GPS tracking. I don't want it.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 6:07 pm to roach3
quote:
Honestly just go drive them all. They are all decent trucks.
This.
Recently bought an F150 4x4 Supercrew. Main reason was because of the interior room (kids) and cause it was the best deal I can find.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 6:08 pm to Rocco4
In my third F-150 now driving a 16. It’s their best version by far. I love it. Eco-boost for the win.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:05 pm to Rocco4
Owned one Ford 250 Diesel, was a P.O.S.
Owned one Dodge 350 Cummings = utilitarian
Ford = Found on road dead, Fix Or Repair Daily, F'n Old Remanufactured Dodge
GMCs ever since
Owned one Dodge 350 Cummings = utilitarian
Ford = Found on road dead, Fix Or Repair Daily, F'n Old Remanufactured Dodge
GMCs ever since
Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:10 pm to Rocco4
Rams an F150s look the best. F150 is probably the superior truck
Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:17 pm to Rocco4
I don’t understand all the hate for the Ram. I guess the reputation is bad b/c of the older models. I’m on my second, a 2016 1500 4x4. Bought a 2015 and got trapped in during the flood last year and lost it so I bought another. I like it. I do miss the Chevy body style but like the Ram interior a lot more. I bought it after owning a 2008 Chevy and putting 192k miles on it but having a lot of small issues that added up. I can’t say this one won’t have similar issues but the power of the Ram is hands down better than the Chevy. I pull a 33 ft camper and a 45 hp tractor occasionally and it handles both a lot better than the Chevy did. Hopefully it lasts me 10 years.
And the insurance company gave me more than I originally paid for the 2015 after the flood. It had 25k miles so I’d say they hold their value well.
And the insurance company gave me more than I originally paid for the 2015 after the flood. It had 25k miles so I’d say they hold their value well.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:29 pm to jbro12
F-150 guy all my life.
Purchased a 14 GMC Sierra All Terrain and love it! Great all around truck.
That said nothing beats an F-250. If I had enough use for it I would be all in.
Purchased a 14 GMC Sierra All Terrain and love it! Great all around truck.
That said nothing beats an F-250. If I had enough use for it I would be all in.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:32 pm to Rocco4
Never met a Ram owner who wasn’t super trashy.
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