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re: Raising a child in a non religious home with a very religious extended family
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:46 pm to WDE24
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:46 pm to WDE24
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I missed any portion of this thread where someone claimed Christianity as a science or why that matters.
i thought thats what he was saying and i was mistaken. then sfp typed the following and i was just responding to him.
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after you tried to insult a valid point about christianity being a part of the social lexicon by implying it wasn't science? yes
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:47 pm to urinetrouble
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Do kids really care that much about this stuff anyway? In my experience, most children and teenagers don't really take church and religion very serious at all, even the ones that ultimately take it more serious in adulthood
Any 16 year boy that tells you he's at church to praise god instead of looking at the 16 year old girls that are just growing tits and trying to frick them is flat out lying.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:47 pm to urinetrouble
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In what way were they destroyed?
they were social outcasts. they had to go hang out with the skaters (we called them skanks) or magic the gathering players (total nerds who thought they were a lot smarter than they were)
they didn't get invited to parties, had a very low social ceiling, etc
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Seems to me like if you are an outgoing, likeable person, then it would overcome any religious difference.
hard to be an outgoing, likeable person when you're thrown to the social trash and constantly mocked, ridiculed, etc. kids will respond, typically negatively, and then they will learn to cherish that counter-culture role
by high school they're stuck at teh very bottom and it's VERY tough to climb out of that...plus their social intelligence is destroyed by that point also and it's literally difficult for a person to have the ability to develop the necessary social behaviors
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Do kids really care that much about this stuff anyway? In my experience, most children and teenagers don't really take church and religion very serious at all, even the ones that ultimately take it more serious in adulthood.
they did where i lived, and i lived in an urban are that is pretty progressive for LA. i shudder to think how a kid living in deridder or pineville would have been treated
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:47 pm to RoyMcavoy
Gotcha. I thought you were trying to lead the conversation somewhere and I was just trying to get there directly if that was the case.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:49 pm to dnm3305
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Any 16 year boy that tells you he's at church to praise god instead of looking at the 16 year old girls that are just growing tits and trying to frick them is flat out lying.
I agree unless they are gay.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:50 pm to TeddyPadillac
that's part of growing up, even within a church 
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i shudder to think how a kid living in deridder or pineville would have been treated
I grew up in rural central LA and the only "outed" atheist I knew growing up was always called a devil worshiper
so yeah
and I by no means plan to, or want to raise my daughter completely devoid of religion. I do not hate religion. I don't care if my parents take her to church. I just worry about the confusion for a young mind with 2 very strong influences on her life believing and/or telling her different things.
This isn't about a teacher or friends, but her parents vs grandparents. That is what worries me.
I will never tell her the God doesn't exist. I'll tell her to decide on her own. But I know my parents will be telling her that God does in fact exist and if she doesn't believe she will burn in Hell. That is what I worry about.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i pity your children and hope you have none might as well give them a white trash name that will tattoo them for life on top of the militant atheism
Do you believe that gay couples should be allowed to adopt. You want to talk about setting your kids up to be social outcasts, how about the kid that has two "Dads" and no mom (or the mom happens to have a mustache). I guess as long as they go to church, they'll be ok right? Oh, that's right....it's a sin in Catholicisim to be gay.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:53 pm to dnm3305
quote:While with most people that age the moments are fleeting, teenagers often have moments of deep thought and philosophical wonder. While you might be right in your description more than you are wrong, I don't think it is as definitive as you claim.
Any 16 year boy that tells you he's at church to praise god instead of looking at the 16 year old girls that are just growing tits and trying to frick them is flat out lying.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:53 pm to WDE24
This would have been whacked a few weeks ago. same with this thread.
I grew up in the rural midwest and religion wasn't discussed that often.
I grew up in the rural midwest and religion wasn't discussed that often.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:53 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I agree unless they are gay.
They can always get fricked by the priest to satisfy those sexual cravings. We know the priest's are OK with that. "The Catholic Church: There's something for everyone!"
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:55 pm to WDE24
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While with most people that age the moments are fleeting, teenagers often have moments of deep thought and philosophical wonder. While you might be right in your description more than you are wrong, I don't think it is as definitive as you claim.
Did you pay attention to the gospel or to sucking on the girls tits two pews down from you when you were 16 sitting in a 1 hr mass?
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:56 pm to dnm3305
I didn't go to mass, but I did a lot of both at that age.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
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Almost everyone is agnostic
Lolwut?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:57 pm to dnm3305
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Do you believe that gay couples should be allowed to adopt. You want to talk about setting your kids up to be social outcasts,
i think they should, but they have to understand the issues they're creating by doing so
it's just like i don't think the name Brandilynn should be made illegal, but if you name your daughter that...holy shite
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
what i'm hearing is: don't go to church --> become social outcast. go to church --> become "normal".
sorry for the over simplification, but this just seems like group think. And i don't think it's a reason FOR the OP to raise his kid in whatever is the dominant religion there. if that's what your getting at?
sorry for the over simplification, but this just seems like group think. And i don't think it's a reason FOR the OP to raise his kid in whatever is the dominant religion there. if that's what your getting at?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's just like i don't think the name Brandilynn should be made illegal, but if you name your daughter that...holy shite
If you name your child Brandilynn, I will automatically think the mother was in the absolute bottom percentile in her high school graduating class (and that the child was conceived prior to graduation in most instances) and that the Dad doesnt give a frick and is just happy he's getting a piece of arse. Brandilynn is on your resume' for the rest of your life. Your religious affiliation is no one's fricking business. See the difference?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:02 pm to RoyMcavoy
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sorry for the over simplification, but this just seems like group think.
no it sounds like teaching conformity, which isn't really group think. i'm a big fan of teaching kids conformity in their youth
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And i don't think it's a reason FOR the OP to raise his kid in whatever is the dominant religion there. if that's what your getting at?
like i said, if it's devoid of morality, like radical islam, then no. but christianity is a "good" religion with solid morality/values. we also live in the west, and it's a major part of western culture and why we developed that superior culture
Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:02 pm to dnm3305
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Your religious affiliation is no one's fricking business.
in an ideal world, but not in reality
Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:02 pm to RoyMcavoy
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what i'm hearing is: don't go to church --> become social outcast. go to church --> become "normal". sorry for the over simplification, but this just seems like group think. And i don't think it's a reason FOR the OP to raise his kid in whatever is the dominant religion there. if that's what your getting at?
Yes. You've nailed it. So we've come full circle to my original point. This is about convenience and nothing else.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 2:03 pm
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