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Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:11 am

Why do most teachers complain about being a teacher? Education is known to be one of the easier degrees to get.

Is it a choice just like other professions? You could always go back to school to get another degree that pays better.

Do you believe teacher pay is fair? I realize that not working in the classroom for 1/4 of the year is one factor why its paid low. Also, do teachers unions hurt the salaries overall?

Note: this isnt a career change thread, I'm just asking.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4740 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:13 am to
go read the other 11 billion "why teachers complain" threads.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19197 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:13 am to
For some, it's a target rich environment...

I think most complain now because of how some of the kids act. Not much discipline anymore.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86500 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Why do most employees complain about being an employee?


Is what your question should be. Every working stiff at every job on the planet complains about somethign about their job, it's simply the nature of working. Just because teachers may have summers off doesn't mean there arne't shitty parts of the job too. I mean hell, would you want to babysit 30 kids every day? I sure wouldn't.
Posted by Tri City Tigers
Member since Oct 2018
2343 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:17 am to
quote:


Why do most teachers complain about being a teacher?


They live in a bubble. Government jobs are not the "real world."

quote:

Education is known to be one of the easier degrees to get.


True.

quote:


Do you believe teacher pay is fair?


Yes. They get raises based on the state system whether or not they're good at their job.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 8:18 am
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:18 am to
Teachers by in large don't get paid too much, however I wish that STEM teachers could get paid more so we could attract more talented people (As a whole) to teaching STEM. In fact if I ever got rich I think I would start a program of sorts to give STEM teachers a bonus yearly to raise their salaries if they met some criteria.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4422 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:19 am to
Teacher/Coach here that left the job for more money but have gone back this year. Teaching isn't a hard job but just like any job in the Government there are things you are forced to do that are stupid and unneeded. The paperwork required of a teacher now is crazy dumb. 10% of the job now is actually teaching.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:20 am to
I did some google searches. Average teacher salary is $56,000. But that’s for 9 months work. Extrapolate that over 12 months, and they are making the equivalent of $75,000 on average.

Then I looked up the average salary of an accountant. It’s $76,000.

So the average teacher salary is equal to the average salary of an accountant.

That to me seems completely reasonable and doesn’t seem like teachers are underpaid.
Posted by DumpTruckerson
Member since Feb 2017
1479 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:24 am to
Low wage and teach in a society where the teacher is always wrong/kid is always right.

Couple that with parents who don't raise their kids and you have a bunch of coddled smart asses who think they can do know wrong.

Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7811 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Why do most teachers complain about being a teacher?


Kids, parents, and administration. My wife had a kid call her a prostitute a few weeks ago and another that told her he was going to peel her skin off. Both were in 3rd grade and neither were suspended, so I give her a pass when she complains.

quote:

Do you believe teacher pay is fair?


Depends. My wife makes around $47k, which is more than fair. At a previous school she had teachers making mid $30k, which is way too low.
Posted by sahu01
Georgia
Member since Oct 2018
5 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:25 am to
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This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18806 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:27 am to
Kids act like disrespectful little bastards and the parents are not held to account for anything.

Meanwhile, the admins hold teachers accountable for everything with little to no support against the parents.

No reimbursement for supplies, etc for the room or kids.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65779 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:28 am to
quote:

A teacher gets payed $50k-$80k with the median somewhere in there.


Where?
Posted by Sarsippius
P'Ville
Member since Feb 2014
397 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:30 am to
What one doesn't consider is all of the extra work that teachers have to do on nights and weekends. The paperwork required is absolutely insane. Teachers aren't allowed to simply teach the way they could 25 years ago. Standards being set by people who have no real clue what it's like in the practical environment. Not to mention spending their own money on things for the classroom.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32551 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Why do most teachers complain about being a teacher?


Why does anyone complain about their job? Teachers are just mostly female, so it's over dramatic and all over social media.
Posted by McCaigBro69
TigerDroppings Premium Member
Member since Oct 2014
45086 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Why do most teachers complain about being a teacher?


I do feel sorry for some, especially those who teach in the inner city or in poorer districts.

But I know some that are in solid districts here in Texas whom still complain.

It’s a typical case of overvalued self-importance than anything else.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422586 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Teachers aren't allowed to simply teach the way they could 25 years ago.

this is something many people don't understand

with all the standardized testing and teaching the test, along with a philosophy change to give more work, the "bullshite" they have to do has increased exponentially
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20042 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:36 am to
Wrong PTM. That $56k for 12 months, not 9.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18806 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:36 am to
quote:

But that’s for 9 months work.


Actually, it’s more like 10.5 when you consider all the days teachers are there without kids. Considering most professional jobs have 2-6 weeks of vacation every year, theres really not that much difference in time actually working.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17185 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:37 am to
Apparently teaching is all the time off one can enjoy, plus all the sex one can handle, usually jail free if a female teacher. Plus, free bus trips to/from the State Capital to hold organizational meetups and hookups on the Capital Steps. All while raking the taxpayers money.
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