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re: Question for the HoA Enthusiasts

Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:25 am to
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:25 am to
Not legal violates 1st Amendment
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:26 am to
Can't sign away your rights baw.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26314 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Not legal violates 1st Amendment


No it doesn't. 1st amendment guarantees the government won't restrict your freedom of speech. Does not apply the same way to private organizations

quote:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances


Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:10 am to
Do you really think that a sign with some politician's name on it is going to sway people's votes?
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
3016 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:11 am to
Is your HOA the government? No, its a contract that you signed. This has nothing to do with "muh free speech".
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26314 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:13 am to
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Is this legal? Seems like they are infringing on free speech.
Yes its legal to have that in the HOA bylaws.

quote:

The rule is that no political signs are allowed in yards.
Does it only say political signs? If it only mentions signs, exploit the loophole

Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
3016 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:14 am to
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Can't sign away your rights baw.


Um......
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:16 am to
Our rule is that you have one sign and that's it. Can be for politics, real estate, your kid on the sports team, etc.. But you only get one. I wish it was 0.

They actually have public spaces that are designated as "allowed" to have signs and they get plastered during election time.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 9:17 am
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13912 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:26 am to
Can you explain to me the point and appeal...do you think that someone is going to make up their mind on who to vote for because they see your sign??
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:27 am to
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Can you explain to me the point and appeal.


its a mild form of virtue signaling

thats it
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
3105 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:38 am to
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Can you explain to me the point and appeal...do you think that someone is going to make up their mind on who to vote for because they see your sign??



President, governor... no.

But you'd be surprised at how many people don't have a clue as to who is running for LOCAL and locally oriented offices: judge, school board member, state rep, parish council, registrar of voters, coroner, etc.

Those yard signs get the word out as to who is running, and I have literally heard (dumber) folks and family say,

"Well, I see a lot of my friends and neighbors with signs supporting Joe Blow for school board-- I'll ask about him", or if they are lazy, "hell, I guess I'll vote for him, too".
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10374 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:46 am to
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Is this legal? Seems like they are infringing on free speech.


If you are in an HOA, you signed up for it... Most HOA's are restrictive and if you buy a home with an HOA don't complain after the fact about the restrictions. The answer to your question is you are infringing on your own speech because you are in an HOA. You have given authority to the HOA to do this.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99034 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:50 am to
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Not legal violates 1st Amendment




I like the confidence......you’re wrong but at least you’re confident in being wrong.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99034 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:52 am to
quote:


Do you really think that a sign with some politician's name on it is going to sway people's votes?



Do you really think politicians spend all that money on signs because they do nothing?
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
22484 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 10:13 am to
There are precedents set on both sides in different states, so it may depend on where you are.

New Jersey, Massachusetts, Arizona, California, Nevada, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Delaware have sided in favor of homeowner's right to express political views via yard signs, despite HOA by-laws.

Kansas and Pennsylvania have ruled HOAs were within their rights as private entities to restrict the placement of political signs.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48557 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:58 pm to
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god hates figs


Please tell me this doesn't extend to fig newtons!
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:52 pm to
Has anyone challenged a HOA in court on this matter? If not, then it is untested and uncertain.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
20233 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:53 pm to
Yeah pretty much.

You signed it and said you will abide by any rules they want to have
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