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re: Push Back from Cell Phone plan in public schools.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:32 am to Zzyzx
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:32 am to Zzyzx
quote:Make the policy for them to be turned to silent and left in the lockers. Getting caught with it in class starts disciplinary actions - warning, detention, suspensions.
It’s completely unreasonable and unrealistic to send your child to school nowadays without a phone or a way to communicate directly with them. It’s not even high school, elementary school kids are being sent to school with ways to communicate to their parents directly. It’s just a new world. Expecting that direct channel to be shut is delusional.
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:39 am to Rip Torner
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The parents are the problem, all they do is make excuses and deflect blame for their child’s behavior
This is the main issue. There will always be kids who are just outright disobedient, but there are so many more who simply choose to be disobedient, especially with rules like this, because they know their parents will back them up.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:47 am to Rip Torner
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The parents are the problem
Absolutely. Smaller families leads to high stakes outcome for the one or two kids. Parent stress over that fact leads to bad decisions. Over indulging, lack of discipline, gaming the system. Exceptions apply.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:57 am to FOBW
This thread highlights the fact that is not the schools but the parents dictating the school phone policies. While some are in favor of taking them away, others will have the angry mob with pitchforks at the next school board meeting if they dared take them away.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:05 am to Hellp
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EBR School Board pushes back decision on how a new cellphone ban will be put into the policy
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BATON ROUGE - Following the passing of a new law that puts a ban on cell phones in Louisiana schools, the school boards in the state are deciding the disciplinary action for students who disobey.
At the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board meeting, the policy left many questioning what action administrators should take. Current interim Superintendent Adam Smith says it will be a challenge for school admins to try taking away something that's been in many of the student's lives for years.
Patty Merrick, a former teacher from the district, says one of the biggest challenges the parish will face is that they do not have enough manpower in classrooms or buses to enforce this in either setting.
Fixed another one.
ETA: What they need to teach in schools is proper thread starting skills.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:15 am to Zzyzx
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elementary school kids are being sent to school with ways to communicate to their parents directly
This is fricking insane for a vast majority of kids. Sorry, zero chance, outside of weird medical issues or one offs, will my kid have a cell phone in 4th grade.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:40 am to StatMaster
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I completely get the reason for enforcement in school, but on buses? Why is that even part of the ban?
Because they use them to record fights and post them online within minutes.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:45 am to Hellp
For fifty years or more if there was an emergency the school would get called and they would send a runner or use the intercom to have that student come to the office. It was fine.
If there is an emergency now and the phones are in the students’ lockers like some have suggested, you would find out earlier by someone calling the school and the school notifying the student.
There is also something to be said for today’s students to be “unplugged” for a few hours a day. Going without their cell phones for 8 hours might be the best thing for them.
If there is an emergency now and the phones are in the students’ lockers like some have suggested, you would find out earlier by someone calling the school and the school notifying the student.
There is also something to be said for today’s students to be “unplugged” for a few hours a day. Going without their cell phones for 8 hours might be the best thing for them.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:45 am to Jcorye1
lol. honestly it’s just laughable how delusional and out of touch most everyone in this thread is.
I think most of this thread either has very old children, no children, children too young for school, and again delusional.
Your kid won’t always be able to get to their locker if there’s an emergency.
To clarify (if it makes a difference) It’s not phones anymore for the most part. It’s watches, like apple watches, that can make calls.
I even know a handful of kindergarten parents that send their kid to school with a watch.
3rd/4th is usually when most of the kids start to have it though. There’s literally not one 4th grade student that doesn’t have a watch to make phone calls at our local school. That’s not an exaggeration, it is a fact. Not a single 4th grader.
Not that I care what anyone decides for their only kids and devices, do whatever you want. Like I said tho, I think most of you are just out of touch on this by a mile.
It’s just a different world now.
I think most of this thread either has very old children, no children, children too young for school, and again delusional.
Your kid won’t always be able to get to their locker if there’s an emergency.
To clarify (if it makes a difference) It’s not phones anymore for the most part. It’s watches, like apple watches, that can make calls.
I even know a handful of kindergarten parents that send their kid to school with a watch.
3rd/4th is usually when most of the kids start to have it though. There’s literally not one 4th grade student that doesn’t have a watch to make phone calls at our local school. That’s not an exaggeration, it is a fact. Not a single 4th grader.
Not that I care what anyone decides for their only kids and devices, do whatever you want. Like I said tho, I think most of you are just out of touch on this by a mile.
It’s just a different world now.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:48 am to jmarto1
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Reading the article it says that the opposition feels they do not have enough manpower to enforce the rule. They feel like strange rules will need to be used to make it happen. It isn't an unreasonable opinion that technology might be able to help with
So they want to hire more people to enforce the rule? Nah. Just enforce it. If the kid doesn't hand it over immediately, and some will test it, make the punishment severe enough to make it not worthwhile.
Make the parent come to school to retrieve the phone and sit through a talk about why the rule is in place and how the kid got in trouble.
There will be some squalling, but they'll learn.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:54 am to Hellp
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It’s frightening that kids are so wild.
The home structure isn't there and the administrations are overwhelmed. Top that with limited option to discipline due to fear of liability
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:57 am to Zzyzx
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To clarify (if it makes a difference) It’s not phones anymore for the most part. It’s watches, like apple watches, that can make calls.
I even know a handful of kindergarten parents that send their kid to school with a watch.
3rd/4th is usually when most of the kids start to have it though. There’s literally not one 4th grade student that doesn’t have a watch to make phone calls at our local school. That’s not an exaggeration, it is a fact. Not a single 4th grader.
Not that I care what anyone decides for their only kids and devices, do whatever you want. Like I said tho, I think most of you are just out of touch on this by a mile.
It’s just a different world now.
You’re calling most of us delusional without seeming to understand what the real problem is. Kids actually making calls isn’t, and has never been, the problem. They’re texting, gaming, checking social media, surfing the internet, listening to YouTube via Bluetooth earbuds, and more.
How can teachers provide instruction and meet learning expectations that THEY are accountable for if students have the perpetual distraction of a cell phone in class? It can’t happen. By saying, “It’s a different world now,” you might as well be saying, “Just give up.”
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:02 pm to Hellp
Working in education, a major problem with parenting nowadays are the snowplow parents that remove any obstacle, inconvenience, or difficulty from the child's life, so that once they reach a certain point in high school/college/early on in the workforce, the child's problem-solving skills are nonexistent because the parent solved their problems for them for their whole life until that point.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:02 pm to Zzyzx
I've got a 14 year old who just finished middle school where the policy was phones had to be turned off and in lockers all day. Worked fine and as a parent, I support the policy.
Her 6th grade year was at another school where the kids were allowed to have phones in their backpack but they were supposed to be turned off. Shocker that school has multiple fight videos (videoed at the school) posted to social media each week and a MASSIVE bullying problem. This is at the highest rated middle school in our district and parents there are very vocal about needing to be in touch with their kids at all times.
ETA: also have a rising 3rd grader who will not be getting a phone anytime soon.
Her 6th grade year was at another school where the kids were allowed to have phones in their backpack but they were supposed to be turned off. Shocker that school has multiple fight videos (videoed at the school) posted to social media each week and a MASSIVE bullying problem. This is at the highest rated middle school in our district and parents there are very vocal about needing to be in touch with their kids at all times.
ETA: also have a rising 3rd grader who will not be getting a phone anytime soon.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:05 pm to Hellp
The issue is schools are hamstrung by districts. They can only expel so many kids. NCLB is a huge failure. So major infractions become minor infractions and minor infractions don’t get processed because there is no next step. Out of school suspension and in school suspension are the only discipline options and they are saved for fighting, other major infractions. Cell phones aren’t a big enough issue to warrant discipline because of this.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:18 pm to Midget Death Squad
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It’s completely unreasonable and unrealistic to send your child to school nowadays without a phone or a way to communicate directly with them
The amount of stupidity in this post is next level
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:19 pm to Benne Wafer
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parents there are very vocal about needing to be in touch with their kids at all times
This makes no sense to me, your kid is in school t learn, not be I tich with you at all times.
Parents need to let go a little. My kids school contacts me immediately if the is n issue with my child that I need too know about.
No need for him to have his phone at school to do so
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:24 pm to Hellp
EBR schools are literally averse to education. It's just a fact at this point..
Phones don't matter. Ipads don't matter. The kids could bring a 80" TV in there and it won't matter.
Nobody is learning anything in these schools anyway.
Phones don't matter. Ipads don't matter. The kids could bring a 80" TV in there and it won't matter.
Nobody is learning anything in these schools anyway.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:27 pm to SpotCheckBilly
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So they want to hire more people to enforce the rule? Nah. Just enforce it. If the kid doesn't hand it over immediately, and some will test it, make the punishment severe enough to make it not worthwhile.
Make the parent come to school to retrieve the phone and sit through a talk about why the rule is in place and how the kid got in trouble.
I am all for this. I have heard teachers are pushing back on things like after school detention since they do not get paid for that. Any truth to it? You definitely have to inconvenience the parents because that is the only way many will care.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:34 pm to novabill
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People survived in the past without AC, but would not want to go somewhere now without it.
Except for the fact A/C actually enhances the learning environment and cellphone usage detracts from it, your analogy was spot on. Crackerjack logic right there.
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