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re: PSA for parents: Steer your children into being an electrician
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:20 am to GeauxTigers123
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:20 am to GeauxTigers123
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Now I agree with you that I wouldn’t want a smart kid to go into trades. Would only encourage it if they just weren’t cut out for college.
Ive got one grandkid in an HVAC apprenticeship. He's an average student, and this seems to suit him well. His sister is going to Harvard. Quite the discrepancy.
She works at a coffee shop/cafe while in HS and makes between 30-40 an hour, including tips. Not bad for High School.
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:24 am to MRTigerFan
Yea, manual labor at 68 yrs old, working on a construction site away from family. For about 350k pre tax dollars. No thanks. I'll work a desk job and invest.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:25 am to tiger94gop
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you stand to make a range from $30 to $150 per hour based on experience and up to $200 per day per diem
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6-10 schedule, but it will be 7-12's pretty quickly
A) the only ones making 150/hour are the supers...so maybe 10 guys on the whole job....thats still a big maybe as 99.99% of supers do not make that
B) only ones making over $50 an hour are the foreman
C) 95% of the people on that job will be at the $30 an hour
thats not a bad wage....but this is exactly what I am talking about
work 7/12s to make 165k a year plus ~73k in per diem and thats if you worked everyday of the year....you want. be lucky if you worked 9 of the 12 months. so now down to roughly $125k plus ~54k in per diem
thats good money but you are literally killing yourself to make that. its fricking laughable the OT thinks they can work like that year over year too
not to mention the whole point of the perdiem is because you are away from home.
on something like this, you have a choice, uproot the family every 12-18 months and move or be away from the family 9 months of the year....
I take back everything I said.....I highly highly encourage yall to send your sons into the trades, begging you too. great life, its awesome barely seeing your family. Im sure your marriage will be great.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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She works at a coffee shop/cafe while in HS and makes between 30-40 an hour, including tips. Not bad for High School.
if she makes 30-40 an hour working in the coffee shop, why would you not encourage your grandson to work their too? thats more than what he will make in hvac unless he opens his own business which by every statistical probability will fail and leave him in debt!
so either you are full of shite as usual with that number or you are not being a very good grand father explaining things to him.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:32 am to lsu777
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if she makes 30-40 an hour working in the coffee shop, why would you not encourage your grandson to work their too?
He;s in Louisiana. He cant find that kind of pay there. The base/hourly before tips is $16 here.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:34 am to lsu777
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so either you are full of shite as usual
Ah yes, the pretentious one with steroid issues is raging again.
Youre not a very smart human.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Ah yes, the pretentious one with steroid issues is raging again.
Youre not a very smart human.
yea thats it.
i have steroid issues because I call you out on BS?
and yea im not smart at all
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He;s in Louisiana. He cant find that kind of pay there. The base/hourly before tips is $16 here.
well why not say that? but prolyl should tell him to move his arse back up there by you.
apparently you doing a much better job than whoever is raising him down here. The one you raised is goign ivy league, making more in her summer job than he will. if what you say is true then you should be more proactive in steering him.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:39 am to lsu777
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i have steroid issues
Youre a raging meathead.
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well why not say that?
Because its none of your goddamned business, woman.
Add "entitled" to pretentious and roid raging.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:40 am to lsu777
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and yea im not smart at all
Ites impossible to find hiding behind this wall of rage you live with.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre a raging meathead.
nobody is raging. and im anything but a meathead
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Add "entitled" to pretentious and roid raging.
why do you think im roid raging or even mad? you realize i take trt only from my doctor right? being educated on a subject and understand the chemistry and bio chem actions in the body doesnt make me roid head
you lie a lot on here and then you get mad and lash out anytime someone disagrees with you. but yea everyone else are the ones raging.
good luck to your grandkids....they are going to need it.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:49 am to lsu777
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good luck to your grandkids....they are going to need it.
We did just fine, She's going to Harvard for free, we sure did something right. Maybe a little non traditional lifestyle would help your kids do better too.
I doubt they'll be proud of a roid raging meathead when theyre grown.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 8:50 am
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:05 am to TideSaint
My blue collar friends tell me that electricians are gay and never clean up after themselves.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:12 am to NIH
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Going into the trades is the OT’s version of volunteering for military service after Pearl Harbor or 9/11
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
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She's going to Harvard for free
That just means her parents/guardians income is below a certain level because Harvard doesn’t offer academic scholarships. It’s all need based.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:18 am to tiggerthetooth
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Theres a reason an entire generation of tradesmen told their own children to go to college and get an office job.
That was back when you got a degree that meant something. Today most of what people get degrees in are worthless. If you don't belive me, ask a barrista.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:20 am to yellowfin
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That just means her parents/guardians income is below a certain level
No. That means she applied as an independent
Glad to inform you of this option, slick.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:27 am to DesScorp
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But his body will be broken by 40!" exclaims the OT white collar guy as he sinks 3 prescriptions for blood pressure, ulcer, and high blood sugar with his 5th whiskey sour of the day.
You want to do a health and addiction comparison with your average white collar vs blue collar worker?
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:28 am to P0SEIDON
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He sounds stupid.
Or he is in great health and enjoys the work. At age 68, the "average" remaining life expectancy for a male is about 15.6 years, which suggests a total lifespan of roughly 83.6 years. He also is increasing the amount of his SS benefit he will or is already receiving. That doesn't sound very stupid to me.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:31 am to lsu777
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1) to make more, you have to not sleep in your bed everynight, be away from your family.
2) you work in the heat and the cold
3) ibew is more secure than non union but you still layoff a lot. Like a lot alot.
4) the work takes a physical toll on the body big time
Valid points, to an extent.
1. You work, learn more, and develop new skills, and journeyman isn't your ceiling any more. Also, I can take my family on the road with me.
2. I'd rather work in the heat and cold then sit in a shitty office all day.
3. I can get laid off or quit and get another job within a week. That's freedom.
4. Sure, if you stay in the south. Bigger locals and bigger jobs make contractors take better care of their people.
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also the OT is fricking retarded when it comes to the trades. everyone knows a plumber or an electrician that makes 300-500k a year. come to find out, its the business owner. The OT has no clue how long it takes to get the license to even be able to open a shop. Those owners do make bank but those guys would have been successful no matter what they went into. That is not your average tradesman.
Fair.
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go ask any tradesman and they will tell their kids to go get an office job. ask the office job OTer and they will say the trades are great but have never once been in the trades. they have no clue.
go ask a welder or electrician or a plumber or a pipe fitter on a hot day in august if they would like to trade places with the engineer or accountant and they will all say yes.
Romanticize the trades all yall want, those of us that have done both know and there is a reason you dont see very many still in the trades by 50 and the ones there at 60 are broken down physically.
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but if you like working 60+ hours a week, missing holidays, missing birthdays, missing ball games with the kids.....the trades are for you. in exchange you will make decent money with all the OT and you get an addiction to caffeine, zyn and to work around sub 80 iq people all day. Its a sweet gig!!
All of that can happen in any field.
Take care of yourself. Take care of your family.
Also, the OT will love this: we don't deal with HR.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:38 am to markthetiger
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My son went to college for one semester dropped out and said “Dad, I think I wanna go and be a lineman”..Went to lineman school... Three years later, he’s making more money than I did being 15 years in my profession.
Isn't this what Mike Rowe talks about all the time. And you can live your career where you choose. Not where the company transfers you.
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