re: PSA for parents: Steer your children into being an electrician

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That’s always a classic

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yea they love to throw that in there

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LSU777

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Turning up my details matter machine. Thx.

MFM vs MMF…whoops, for example.

I gave you the Indiana project. If you really did rate sheets as you say, you would know that every site has a different scale.

Also, no it isn't always that good, but as I said most guys chasing out of town projects understand the logistics of it as well as the pros and cons. There are several projects slated for the next few years and it is making skilled labor very scarce and valuable.

A project this size will have trouble staffing it, so a large portion of the guys will be at the higher end of their craft. You saying you work in these facilities does not reflect your posts, because you do not understand the industrial contracting world.

Again, if you really work in a refinery good for you. You should then know that even across the same Company, each site pays different Contractor rates. Also, there is a difference between prevailing wages that are tied to Union wage scales. So yeah, people could be making $150 an hour. Also, this is a different animal with it being pharma and they have an expedited timeline to bring this facility online.

I also think it is your opinion of the quality of life. Many plant workers work shift work, sounds terrible until you figure it comes out to working little over half the year. One person's shitty job may be another person's opportunity to better themselves.

I mean if that was the case, people wouldn't be in the military, people wouldn't work construction, people wouldn't be fishermen, people wouldn't be fighters, etc. Your perception is not someone else's reality.

You should acknowledge that being a tradesman is a better existence than someone with a college degree who can't pay their student loans and pays more for every facet of life because their credit is shite.

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I gave you the Indiana project. If you really did rate sheets as you say, you would know that every site has a different scale.

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yep and im able to look at the rate build up sheets across multiple refineries including 1 in the area in question, not close to those wages.

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A project this size will have trouble staffing it, so a large portion of the guys will be at the higher end of their craft. You saying you work in these facilities does not reflect your posts, because you do not understand the industrial contracting world.

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yea and if they are paying what you are saying they will take guys from every project in the chicago land area

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Again, if you really work in a refinery good for you. You should then know that even across the same Company, each site pays different Contractor rates. Also, there is a difference between prevailing wages that are tied to Union wage scales.

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i understand that

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So yeah, people could be making $150 an hour.

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no they arent unless you are including per diem, ot and benefits in that. their true hourly wage is not close to that

i even looked at IBEW local 481 and the job listing at for that plant states

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Industrial Electric needs 30 JW at Lilly LP1 Project in Lebanon Indiana. 13-day rule applicant can only work 13 days in a row. Job Schedule Working 7-10’s alternating Sundays off. This call is second shift 6:00 pm – 4:30 am. This call pays Third Shift rate $54.54 Hour. Onboarding and Jobsite orientation is Dayshift, when completed applicant will start Second shift work. Drug Test

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i also linked the where2bro which is for IBEW jobs across the nation and again there are no 150 an hour jobs

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I also think it is your opinion of the quality of life. Many plant workers work shift work, sounds terrible until you figure it comes out to working little over half the year

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yea no shite and thats not a good quality of life either but its way way better than that of a guy living in an RV. I think the quality of life on a oil rig sucks too. you miss all kinds of family things.

and not everyone in a refinery works shift work. most of management and engineers work 9-80 schedule. 9 hours per day and off every other friday.

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I mean if that was the case, people wouldn't be in the military, people wouldn't work construction, people wouldn't be fishermen, people wouldn't be fighters, etc. Your perception is not someone else's reality.

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they do it usually because they dont have a choice. I did it for years.

im not knocking it, im simply saying tell the truth about the job.

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You should acknowledge that being a tradesman is a better existence than someone with a college degree who can't pay their student loans and pays more for every facet of life because their credit is shite.

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well thats real simple....dont be a dumbass and major in something stupid but overall college grads still make more over the course of their working life than the average guy in the trades. about a million more to be exact.


but i think you are misunderstanding what I am saying

1) stop including benefits into the hourly wage, it is doing nothing but misleading young men or stating the salary of the top .01%

2) stop acting like going into the trades is better than getting a stem degree or finance or law etc

3) list the pros and the cons of the job, stop acting like its all sunshine because it isnt.


again i understand

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One person's shitty job may be another person's opportunity to better themselves.

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this. what I am asking is to stop telling young men who are very bright that they should drop out of engineering and go be an electrician. because that is stupid AF

for the guy that is looking to better himself...awesome path in life. but stop acting like its the new path to wealth because it isnt.

Nothing makes him more angry than trade jobs and talking shite about travel baseball

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Nothing makes him more angry than trade jobs and talking shite about travel baseball

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yea thats it.

im not angry i laughing at the idiots that believe shite like that.

i literally linked the ibew page for the jobs he is talking about, still says im wrong


im not angry, i simply ask that yall dont act like females and act on emotions instead of facts and dont get mad when someone brings facts to the table and start attacking the person instead of the arguement.

typical pussy poster though, attack me instead of proving me wrong. Just like a female

Oh nice he'll love me then--trade job and rec league coach

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spent a year as an apprentice with IBEW 136 in Birmingham. First 6 months there they didn't have enough work for close to half of the new apprentice class. Then during the Biden admin they shut down the coal plants that staffed a large portion of the entire local and it turned into an even bigger crap show.

On the flip side, my cousin with IBEW in the Biloxi area is overflowing with work. Just depends on the local and where they staff people.

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Yeah.

If I did it all over again I'd start non-union and test in later. A lot of locals in the south aren't worth it.

This website has become a source of misleading and false propaganda