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re: POW’s/Vietnam

Posted on 2/7/24 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10324 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

They let him out after 55 days? Wow


He was shot down on December 20, 1972. The Paris Peace Accords were signed on Janaury 27, 1973 and he was released during Operation Homecoming on February 12, 1973.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4699 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:00 pm to
i dont know any that escaped, but i do know one that was in the HH for over five years.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1952 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

He went back to Germany and met one of his captors in the 80s and they shared a meal at his home.


i'd love to know what that conversation was like
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:05 pm to
Yes


Donald Trump


He used his bone spurs to get out
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39128 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:24 pm to
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There were many more that were repatriated after the war.


My dad knew one, initials G.D. from the Pierre Part/Napoleonville area. We watched him on the news getting off of the POW plane when he came home to the USA.

Wife's grandfather spent 4 years as a guest of the Reich. He knew nothing aboot cooking but claimed to be a cook, when asked what skills he had. He figured he would always have something to eat if working in the kitchen.

He wrote a book and made one copy for each of his kids. I have been waiting 25 years to read it. I met him when he was 75 and he was a tough old Scottish Canuck.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29305 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:31 pm to
When I was a kid, one of our neighbors had been captured by the Germans in late WW2. He told me the story once when I was a kid. He said the Germans used a captured American tank to get close to their position but it was followed by German vehicles. He said they didn't get much to eat but neither did the guards. He said the captured soldiers got the same food the Germans did and it was explained to them if they didn't cause trouble the guards wouldn't start any either as they were all just waiting for the war to end.
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
2422 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:50 pm to
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a POW, but when i joined the marines in 93, there were a few Vietnam vets still hanging around. quick story, don't frick with them.


Yeah I had a drill instructor at mcrd San Diego that had some fricked up cadence. A lot of napalming kids and shite. We set the record at the time for prac, and we were supposed to get to watch a movie for Christmas. Well he was in charge that day. He said he didn't get to watch a movie in boot camp and neither would we. So we had the fun time of polishing our boots all day.

By the way, it's easy to score 99.5 for prac when they give you all the answers.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19237 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:53 pm to
My grandfather was captured, taken to Cambodia, made to operate heavy equipment, and lost an eye when he drove an excavator off and it was blown up. He eventually escaped and linked up with some of his army brethren.

I used to always ask how he lost his eye when I was a kid and eventually my mom told me.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1514 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:55 pm to
Murdoch, I'm coming to get you!
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:57 pm to
Good friend of my late father who himself recently passed, was the subject of Paradise Road w/Glenn Close. His mother and his siblings spent several years in the Japanese internment camps in Indonesia. Dude had a super colorful life and I hope to have experienced 1/3 of what he did. Dutch by birth.

Sad thing though - there was only about 8-10 of us at his funeral yet he touched a lot of lives.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8384 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:01 pm to
I knew several WW2 POW’s.

One of them was a welder that worked for us. We kept him in the shop to do mostly our own personal fabrication projects. ( “Red Cross “).

He had a scar on his forehead from when the German Commander of the prison camp cracked him with a bludgeon. When the liberators came through the gate he ran to the Commander’s office. Grabbed a letter opener and stuck it into his throat killing him.


He had told himself for 2 years that if he ever had the chance, he would kill that bastard with his bare hands. He said the letter opener was convenient.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15103 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:05 pm to
I went to grade & high school w a girl whose father did 6 years at Hanoi Hilton. She was 4 years old when her fathers plane was shot down & he was captured.

He retired from the military and was the head guy at our regional airport. Good guy

This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64590 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

not a POW, but when i joined the marines in 93, there were a few Vietnam vets still hanging around. quick story, don't frick with them.



I had a 1st Sgt who was a Vietnam vet. Best Top I ever had. He loved three things:

1. Winston cigarettes
2. Black coffee
3. Killing communists

I swear, if the ballon had ever gone up and the Russians came pouring though the Fulda Gap, I think he’d have jizzed his BDUs in glee at prospect of killing communists against.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 2:12 pm
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1636 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:12 pm to
quote:
German...treated pretty well


My understanding as well.
Not to minimize it, but I'd much rather be German pow than VC or Japanese.

I think German guys were just serving their country for most part. Most weren't necessarily bad ppl or crazy.
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This really underscores cultural values between European and Asian civilizations. Class structure plays into this, as well. For many years, the armies of Europe would treat a captured, high-ranking officer better than their own common infantryman. Most of this is derived from the Chivalric code, which Asian countries did not adhere to.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10162 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:27 pm to
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had a drill instructor at mcrd San Diego that had some fricked up cadence. A lot of napalming kids and shite


when i got to camp pendleton, i got quota'd for guard duty. so a month before my guard duty started we had to report to the guard shack. this crusty arse comm GySgt from the Nam era was in charge. nothing was lax around him. we ran everywhere in our boots and bdu bottoms for fan fire, to the obstacle course, anywhere we were going, he ran us there.

fast forward to the month we're actually doing guard duty, November, and of course i'm on duty thanksgiving day. its pretty quiet, and then HE walks in. of course everyone's assholes pucker up. he was actually in a good mood that day. whistling shite, asking us how our holiday day was while on guard duty etc................then on his way out the door he stops, looks back at us in the guard shack and says 'happy turkey day mother frickers'. it really was one of the nicest things he ever said to us. lol
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23430 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:37 pm to
During the Vietnam War, the antiwar crowd marched to the main gate of Kaneohe Marine Corps Air Station in Hawaii. They had pledged to "storm the gate." My school bus passed the protestors on the way home from school. From the outside, the gate only had the normal sentries. No evidence of any special reaction.

As the bus went through the gate, we could see an area hidden from view from outside the base. There was a pile of mean arse looking Marines, who just returned from Vietnam. There wasn't going to be a gate storming that day (and the protestors did nothing anyway)
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4596 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:46 pm to
I escaped a whore house in Korea one, if that helps.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117709 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

escaped a whore house in Korea


Any keepsakes, mementos, or VD?

Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4596 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

quote:
German...treated pretty well


My understanding as well.
Not to minimize it, but I'd much rather be German pow than VC or Japanese.

I think German guys were just serving their country for most part. Most weren't necessarily bad ppl or crazy.


I think the Germans treated westerners better than they treated the Russians. At least that's the way it was portrayed in Hart's War.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30555 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

quote:
German...treated pretty well


My understanding as well.
Not to minimize it, but I'd much rather be German pow than VC or Japanese.

I think German guys were just serving their country for most part. Most weren't necessarily bad ppl or crazy.
_______________________________________________

This really underscores cultural values between European and Asian civilizations. Class structure plays into this, as well. For many years, the armies of Europe would treat a captured, high-ranking officer better than their own common infantryman. Most of this is derived from the Chivalric code, which Asian countries did not adhere to.
read the books fly boys or ghost soldiers... basically the japanese had no respect for anyone that surrendered. but yeah german pows that were not jewish were treated fairly well by comparison.
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