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re: POW’s/Vietnam

Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4598 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

quote:
escaped a whore house in Korea


Any keepsakes, mementos, or VD?


Maybe warts, no rugrats that i'm aware of.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13562 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:53 pm to
quote:


not a POW, but when i joined the marines in 93, there were a few Vietnam vets still hanging around. quick story, don't frick with them.


I didnt know any pow's but my fathers best friend was a tunnel rat. He was certainly not someone you would mess with. He told my father that he wished he had died in Vietnam. That he had not had a single night of good sleep since then. He died about 2 years ago.

Hopefully he can finally rest.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4598 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:57 pm to
I joined the AF in 86. Several of the SNCOs were Vietnam Vets (mostly Army and Marines), they were not the kind that didn't like to talk about it. Being in an engineering unit, we'd do quarterly bivouac and they'd tell stories all night. I wish I had enjoyed that time more.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39203 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:03 pm to
My grandfather was a POW in WWII. He didn't escape though. He was let out by the Americans after we won.
Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
843 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
So what I’m reading here is the Asian countries treat POW’s like shite. Japan, Korea, Vietnam.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18662 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:07 pm to
Knew several. They were in the instructor cadre when I was in SERE.

They were great instructors but their interrogation techniques were pretty heavy handed.
Posted by arczr2
Iota
Member since Oct 2020
257 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:15 pm to
We just had one his name was Britney Griner what an American hero....Biggest trade in history in women's sports period.
Posted by Pioneer BS 175
Pcola
Member since Jul 2015
1273 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:27 pm to
Have never met anyone, but did watch this documentary on Dieter Dengler who was shot down, captured and escaped. Incredible story.

Little Dieter Needs to Fly YT

Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1311 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:40 pm to
Wife's grandfather was a Bataan death march survivor. Received a silver star for his actions on the retreat. Was blind due to malnutrition when released, but regained his sight.

Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4158 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:01 pm to
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This really underscores cultural values between European and Asian civilizations. Class structure plays into this, as well. For many years, the armies of Europe would treat a captured, high-ranking officer better than their own common infantryman. Most of this is derived from the Chivalric code, which Asian countries did not adhere to.


American POW’s in the European theater during WWII weren’t treated well. They were treated better than other prisoner groups, but not “well.”

And they treated the Russian POWs like absolute shite.

We generally treated German POWs well. In fact some German officers were shipped back to the US and ate and drank with our military officers and had minimal confinement.

Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1674 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:39 pm to
I believe Allied Airmen who were prisoners in the Stalag Luf run the Luftwaffe probably had the best treatment. From what i have read, the Luftwaffe wanted their own treated well so did the same with the ALlied flyers.

Of course, the treatment of Russians and other Eastern Europeans (eg Poles) was bad.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9457 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:42 pm to
Holy shite!!! I read a book about this guy - a long time ago - but this 1:17 really brought it to life. Amazing story and life!
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3456 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

el Gaucho


What branch did you serve in and for how long?
Posted by UnoDelgado
Covington
Member since Nov 2019
535 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:39 pm to
I like people who weren’t captured. DJT
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17032 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:40 pm to
Rambo eacaped

Chuck Norris did too.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49671 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:54 pm to
Cousin in law was shot down over North Vietnam and spent 7 years as a POW.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34674 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:14 pm to
The US made all the bomber crewmen and gunners sergeants so they would get better treatment from the Germans
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
550 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:11 pm to
Not funny, punch yourself in the balls
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
550 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:20 pm to
Not at the end we didn’t, thousands died from starvation and disease but they probably had it coming
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8255 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:58 pm to
Not POW related. But I worked with a WW2 vet around 15 years ago, elderly gentleman with super great memory. He told me some stories:

1. He was 1 of 5 brothers in the war, all made it out alive. After the war he hitch hiked from Cali to NY. He was Italian.

2. He was in Pattons Army. Talking to his brothers post war found out another brother was in same town in France as him, a block away but they never knew at the time.

3. He ran a Sherman tank. Told me about a relief soldier and they always told newbies to never stick your head out of hatch while moving due to snipers. And as calm as day said the newbie dud just that and got his head shot off dead. I was amazed how he could compartmentalize these things and asked him about that. Said it was easier to talk to a non family member about war and other than brothers they didn’t talk around family.

4. Talked about Bastogne and that campaign and how tired they were. Yet said everyone loved Patton because they felt safer with a hardass in charge.

5. Talked about when they got to Berlin amd Russians were there (he hated that our Admin made us wait to allow Russians to get in first). Said everyone hated the Ruskies. Also said you had to watch everything and guard it - Russians were so poor they would steal anything they could.

He passed away about 10 years ago but was a great veteran. He loved to play music and even wrote some. Played the violin and other instruments. Ironically his house was taken out in I think 2001 by one of our tornadoes. He had one sturdy spot under the stairs and it was only section not blown away.

He would bring in picture books of his time in war, just awesome stuff to see. I always took him to a nice lunch on Veterans Day. Always told how glad I was he served and allowed me to have my freedom. They don’t make em like that any more.
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