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re: Power Plant at ORCS Will cripple Mississippi River eventually

Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3241 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:17 pm to
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Hydroelectric has no boiler thus no condenser tubes


My bad. When you say power plant i think of a boiler.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52185 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:35 pm to
One of these years I guess this is gonna happen

No more big boats to LA, I-10 will be wiped out, nuclear plant will meltdown, etc
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52185 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:37 pm to
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There is a rock shelf just north of the Old Bridge (Hwy 190) which is why ships cannot go further upriver. It traps sand there which is why you see dredges mining sand there all of the time.

Shhhhhhh


Huey P put that rock shelf there
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12895 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

The Mississippi started to change course in 1950.

Started a long time before that.
Posted by Finchboyz
Choclate city
Member since May 2018
572 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:46 pm to
Great book
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20954 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:50 pm to
The Mississippi River will change course. It is inevitable. Whether it happens next year or 200 years.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52185 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:51 pm to
Or 300 years
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47086 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:53 pm to
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very interesting.


ftr, i have no idea what i just read.


You just read the account of an old man who owns land inside the levees of the MS river expecting the Corps of Engineers to pay for and keep his land the same while mother nature always changes everything.

IE, had he lived millions of years ago he'd want things to still be Pangaea
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47086 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:59 pm to
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Mudberg is a sediment plug in the river that reduces the Mississippi’s discharge to the Gulf (about 23% less when above flood stage)


FTR, I'm gonna call this claim bullshite.

Just because there's a new lump of mud in the middle of the river does not mean less water gets discharged to the Gulf.

If there's 1 Million gallons of water before the lump, there's still gonna be 1 Million gallons of water after the lump... now it may have spread wider or rose higher to get around the lump... but it *is* gonna get around it and continue to make it's way to the Gulf.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15957 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:08 pm to
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My bad. When you say power plant i think of a boiler.


I get that. You just missed the hydroelectric part.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4021 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:08 pm to
Can somebody draw me a damn picture.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15957 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:09 pm to
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Isn’t the bridge too low?


The bridge is low because there was no need of it being higher.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42719 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:10 pm to
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Just because there's a new lump of mud in the middle of the river does not mean less water gets discharged to the Gulf.

If there's 1 Million gallons of water before the lump, there's still gonna be 1 Million gallons of water after the lump... now it may have spread wider or rose higher to get around the lump... but it *is* gonna get around it and continue to make it's way to the Gulf.


If the silt slows down the flow wouldn’t less water reach the Gulf?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41194 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:12 pm to
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I’m trying to understand his beef with flooding the batture which is what’s left of the natural floodplain


He must own batture land

Posted by goinallout
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1072 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:15 pm to
I think he owns a lot of land around Lake Mary
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16280 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:41 pm to
Nothing is gonna cripple the Mississippi. The water is gonna eventually go the way of wherever it deems its natural course. We can try to control it all we want but the Old Man is gonna do what he wishes.


Damn Morgan Freeman needs to read that aloud.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32206 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:55 pm to
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Is this open to the general public?


Probably not. Maybe someone on TD had a contact and can get us a private tour.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2669 posts
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:03 pm to
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The CoE could undo the damage by dredging where the sediment is building.


If they were authorized and had the funds allocated by congress to dredge the channel.

quote:

No, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) does not have unilateral decision-making authority. Dredge projects are governed by congressional funding, state and federal environmental regulations, and local partnerships.The USACE's decision-making power is heavily constrained by several critical factors:

Congressional Authorization & Appropriations: The USACE cannot simply initiate a large dredging project at will. They generally require two separate acts of Congress—one to authorize the feasibility study and another to authorize construction. Furthermore, Congress must explicitly appropriate the funds for every phase of the project.

Budgetary Constraints: USACE operations are bound by strict budget limitations dictated by Congress and the President's budget. Because there is not enough money to maintain every single federal navigation project, the USACE routinely has to defer maintenance on lower-priority waterways in consultation with regional stakeholders.

Environmental Regulations: Under Section 404 of the Clean Water Act, USACE dredge projects must comply with specific environmental guidelines. They also frequently need water quality certifications from state environmental agencies, and must adhere to strict environmental impact statements (EIS) under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). If a state or a federal agency (like the EPA) objects to a project's disposal methods or environmental impact, USACE may have to withdraw its record of decision and pursue alternatives.

Local Project Sponsors: For most federal navigation and ecosystem restoration projects, the USACE operates in a partnership with local public entities. Non-federal sponsors are typically required to provide lands, easements, and contribute to project costs, which gives local stakeholders a significant voice in how a project is scoped and executed.

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