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Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:35 pm to prplhze2000
One of these years I guess this is gonna happen
No more big boats to LA, I-10 will be wiped out, nuclear plant will meltdown, etc
No more big boats to LA, I-10 will be wiped out, nuclear plant will meltdown, etc
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:37 pm to CitizenK
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There is a rock shelf just north of the Old Bridge (Hwy 190) which is why ships cannot go further upriver. It traps sand there which is why you see dredges mining sand there all of the time.
Shhhhhhh
Huey P put that rock shelf there
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:41 pm to prplhze2000
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The Mississippi started to change course in 1950.
Started a long time before that.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:46 pm to UnitedFruitCompany
Great book
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:50 pm to Philzilla2k
The Mississippi River will change course. It is inevitable. Whether it happens next year or 200 years.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:51 pm to Purple Spoon
Or 300 years
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:53 pm to Chad504boy
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very interesting.
ftr, i have no idea what i just read.
You just read the account of an old man who owns land inside the levees of the MS river expecting the Corps of Engineers to pay for and keep his land the same while mother nature always changes everything.
IE, had he lived millions of years ago he'd want things to still be Pangaea
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:59 pm to prplhze2000
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Mudberg is a sediment plug in the river that reduces the Mississippi’s discharge to the Gulf (about 23% less when above flood stage)
FTR, I'm gonna call this claim bullshite.
Just because there's a new lump of mud in the middle of the river does not mean less water gets discharged to the Gulf.
If there's 1 Million gallons of water before the lump, there's still gonna be 1 Million gallons of water after the lump... now it may have spread wider or rose higher to get around the lump... but it *is* gonna get around it and continue to make it's way to the Gulf.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:08 pm to rooster108bm
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My bad. When you say power plant i think of a boiler.
I get that. You just missed the hydroelectric part.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:08 pm to prplhze2000
Can somebody draw me a damn picture.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:09 pm to doubleb
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Isn’t the bridge too low?
The bridge is low because there was no need of it being higher.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:10 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Just because there's a new lump of mud in the middle of the river does not mean less water gets discharged to the Gulf.
If there's 1 Million gallons of water before the lump, there's still gonna be 1 Million gallons of water after the lump... now it may have spread wider or rose higher to get around the lump... but it *is* gonna get around it and continue to make it's way to the Gulf.
If the silt slows down the flow wouldn’t less water reach the Gulf?
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:12 pm to Bmath
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I’m trying to understand his beef with flooding the batture which is what’s left of the natural floodplain
He must own batture land
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:15 pm to LSUFanHouston
I think he owns a lot of land around Lake Mary
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:41 pm to prplhze2000
Nothing is gonna cripple the Mississippi. The water is gonna eventually go the way of wherever it deems its natural course. We can try to control it all we want but the Old Man is gonna do what he wishes.
Damn Morgan Freeman needs to read that aloud.
Damn Morgan Freeman needs to read that aloud.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:55 pm to OweO
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Is this open to the general public?
Probably not. Maybe someone on TD had a contact and can get us a private tour.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:03 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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The CoE could undo the damage by dredging where the sediment is building.
If they were authorized and had the funds allocated by congress to dredge the channel.
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No, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) does not have unilateral decision-making authority. Dredge projects are governed by congressional funding, state and federal environmental regulations, and local partnerships.The USACE's decision-making power is heavily constrained by several critical factors:
Congressional Authorization & Appropriations: The USACE cannot simply initiate a large dredging project at will. They generally require two separate acts of Congress—one to authorize the feasibility study and another to authorize construction. Furthermore, Congress must explicitly appropriate the funds for every phase of the project.
Budgetary Constraints: USACE operations are bound by strict budget limitations dictated by Congress and the President's budget. Because there is not enough money to maintain every single federal navigation project, the USACE routinely has to defer maintenance on lower-priority waterways in consultation with regional stakeholders.
Environmental Regulations: Under Section 404 of the Clean Water Act, USACE dredge projects must comply with specific environmental guidelines. They also frequently need water quality certifications from state environmental agencies, and must adhere to strict environmental impact statements (EIS) under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). If a state or a federal agency (like the EPA) objects to a project's disposal methods or environmental impact, USACE may have to withdraw its record of decision and pursue alternatives.
Local Project Sponsors: For most federal navigation and ecosystem restoration projects, the USACE operates in a partnership with local public entities. Non-federal sponsors are typically required to provide lands, easements, and contribute to project costs, which gives local stakeholders a significant voice in how a project is scoped and executed.
Everyone commenting in this thread about the USACE "this and that" should read Chapter 2 of the Dredge Manual and get a better understanding of how the government works and why there are so many studies.
USACE Dredge Manual
Bonus points for whoever reads the entire manual.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:05 pm to Meauxjeaux
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If there's 1 Million gallons of water before the lump, there's still gonna be 1 Million gallons of water after the lump... now it may have spread wider or rose higher to get around the lump... but it *is* gonna get around it and continue to make it's way to the Gulf.
Its still getting there, just taking longer for the same amount of water to reach, thus water level rising and more floods.
Sounds like the state will be fricked either way. Just as soon let the river run its natural course and attempt to stop erosion.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:21 pm to doubleb
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Just because there's a new lump of mud in the middle of the river does not mean less water gets discharged to the Gulf.
If there's 1 Million gallons of water before the lump, there's still gonna be 1 Million gallons of water after the lump... now it may have spread wider or rose higher to get around the lump... but it *is* gonna get around it and continue to make it's way to the Gulf.
If the silt slows down the flow wouldn’t less water reach the Gulf?
Don't confuse speed with volume.
That water is gonna reach the gulf, Mudthing or not.
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